Qjet Tech Question
#1
Qjet Tech Question
I'm working on building a late model "170" carb, let's say an Olds front inlet from 77-78 application. My goal is to take advantage of larger fuel bowl capacity hoping to not run out of fuel @ top end of track. Car noses down about 50' before the speed trap & definitely costing me a tenth or two when losing acceleration for the last 100 feet or so.
I am trying to avoid electric fuel pump but will eventually add it if this simple experiment doesn't do the trick. I am running 1/2" from pickup to carb (#8 AN) w/ Robbmc pump & filters so I'm a bit surprised that bowl doesn't seem to be staying full. Usually run a half tank or slightly more so I don't think I'm uncovering the pickup, but problem does appear to be delivery. Carb is a modded 7040258.
1) Can additional bowl volume be gained in "170" by removing the plastic shot glass?
If so, can I remove some of the casting material that walls off that well?
2) Idle bypass air is being added to base plate fwiw. I have been unable to locate a ported vac nipple on these model carbs. The nipples in body casting seem to supply manifold vacuum despite their location. Am I missing something or is there a mod I can do to create a ported vac nipple for my distributor & lockup circuit?
I am trying to avoid electric fuel pump but will eventually add it if this simple experiment doesn't do the trick. I am running 1/2" from pickup to carb (#8 AN) w/ Robbmc pump & filters so I'm a bit surprised that bowl doesn't seem to be staying full. Usually run a half tank or slightly more so I don't think I'm uncovering the pickup, but problem does appear to be delivery. Carb is a modded 7040258.
1) Can additional bowl volume be gained in "170" by removing the plastic shot glass?
If so, can I remove some of the casting material that walls off that well?
2) Idle bypass air is being added to base plate fwiw. I have been unable to locate a ported vac nipple on these model carbs. The nipples in body casting seem to supply manifold vacuum despite their location. Am I missing something or is there a mod I can do to create a ported vac nipple for my distributor & lockup circuit?
Last edited by bccan; June 16th, 2013 at 09:51 PM.
#2
Seems odd you would have fuel starvation issues with what appears to be a very good fuel pump setup. Maybe you need a high flow needle and seat? Anyway, talking to Cliff Ruggles on the subject of fuel starvation;
I asked him about making more space for fuel in the carb by removing the round plastic insert for the aneroid cavity which some carbs have. In a nutshell, he basically said that such mods would only delay fuel starvation by a very minute amount so it wasn't worth it. He said it's all about fuel flow volume. With that said, I have heard others remove some of the material off the bottom of the plastic insert over the fuel bowl ( though removing it completely is not recommended ).
Your carb should have a ported vac source on the front drivers side of carb which would've been for the EGR valve. If that port is giving you full manifold vacuum then I'm at a loss.
I asked him about making more space for fuel in the carb by removing the round plastic insert for the aneroid cavity which some carbs have. In a nutshell, he basically said that such mods would only delay fuel starvation by a very minute amount so it wasn't worth it. He said it's all about fuel flow volume. With that said, I have heard others remove some of the material off the bottom of the plastic insert over the fuel bowl ( though removing it completely is not recommended ).
Your carb should have a ported vac source on the front drivers side of carb which would've been for the EGR valve. If that port is giving you full manifold vacuum then I'm at a loss.
#3
If the ported vacuum nipple is giving you manifold vacuum at idle it means your carb is not running on the idle circuit; your primary plate has opened up past the port slot, showing that slot the manifold pressure. A confirming symptom of this is limited, or no, idle response when the idle screws are turned in or out.
This happened to me because of the engine rebuild put in a slightly bigger cam than stock. Cliff Ruggles will be modifying my idle circuit this winter to give it more umpf.
This happened to me because of the engine rebuild put in a slightly bigger cam than stock. Cliff Ruggles will be modifying my idle circuit this winter to give it more umpf.
#5
Depending on the fuel pump you have RobbMc recommends running their 1100 models at 12#s and then regulating them down to 6-7 before the carb.
Some of his articles:
http://www.robbmcperformance.com/news/news_v2i2.html
http://www.robbmcperformance.com/news/news_v3i1.html
Some of his articles:
http://www.robbmcperformance.com/news/news_v2i2.html
http://www.robbmcperformance.com/news/news_v3i1.html
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