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Old January 11th, 2014, 07:10 PM
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Other Hurst cars

Hi,
I'm not the most knowledgeable on the history of cars in the 60's and 70's (I'm still learning), but I have run across something I would like to know more about.

I'm very familiar with the Olds Hurst cars. But I have run across a Chrysler 300 Hurst and a Grand Prix Hurst editions.
How many cars did Hurst put their parts special parts on.
Not just the shifter, but a special type of car and a special paint scheme?

Any help out there?
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Old January 11th, 2014, 07:16 PM
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There was AMC Jeep Commando Hurst package.

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Also the '69 Hurst SC/Rambler...
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Cars of Hurst

Hurst Equipped: More Than 50 Years of High Performance (Cartech): Mark Fletcher, Rich Truesdell: 9781934709313: Amazon.com: Books Hurst Equipped: More Than 50 Years of High Performance (Cartech): Mark Fletcher, Rich Truesdell: 9781934709313: Amazon.com: Books


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How about that Hurst 300? This one was at the MCACN in 2013 and 2012 if I'm not mistaken.




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The SSJs are super cool. So is that 300H aircraft carrier. Always liked the 69-72 GPs. Always intrigued with the late 60 early 70 Hurst cars. The GPs prod #s are 272 for 1970, 157ish for 1971 (some say 200) and 60ish for 72 (some say 52). Thats low. For the 300 H (Newports) 501 were made reportedly 2 verts one was a promo and one is said to have a dealer installed Hemi....now thats very cool!
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Check out that back wing on the 300. Awesome!
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Forgot about the 67 vert GPs. Only made 3 of those!
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10 hours left. This will sell for under 20k. Looks solid, but who knows.
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Originally Posted by Benton Quest
Any help out there?
Yeah, get a copy of this (unfortunately) now out of print book.



There are used copies on Amazon.
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Those 1970 Chrysler 300-H cars were awesome. I read an article on a Mopar site about how Hurst replaced the factory hood and trunk lid with fiberglass versions. The trunk lid had no provision for a key. The only way to open the trunk was via a special pull cable mounted under the dash. They were all supposed to have 440 6-packs, but they all ended up being 440 4-bbls.
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Old January 13th, 2014, 03:48 PM
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This is all great info.
I ran across a Pontiac Grand Prix Hurst and had never heard of this before.
What cool cars all of these are.

BUT....for the record, I really want an Olds 68 or 69 Hurst!
If you know of one, send them my way.
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There's a guy local here that has a Hurst Pontiac GP.
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Dr Quest: Did you ever see a '68 H/O FlatTop Wagon????? One of One.
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Originally Posted by Benton Quest
This is all great info.
I ran across a Pontiac Grand Prix Hurst and had never heard of this before.
What cool cars all of these are.

BUT....for the record, I really want an Olds 68 or 69 Hurst!
If you know of one, send them my way.
BQ

What is your budget for a car & how serious are you? There are numerous 68-69 HOs for sale now. A quick check of ebay will show you at least one of each today. Let us know which one you buy
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Old January 13th, 2014, 08:36 PM
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Hi Aron, love the Flattop. What a winner of a car.

Dave, I see some 69's and a few 68's. Most are too high for me and too nice.
I need the ones that are drivers and have not been restored too much.
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Originally Posted by droldsmorland
For the 300 H (Newports) 501 were made reportedly 2 verts one was a promo and one is said to have a dealer installed Hemi....now thats very cool!
It's a 300, not a Newport.
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The 300H has always been on my short list of cars to own, but they rarely come up for sale (at least when I can afford one). Had the chance to get the one Richard Petty owned, but as was usually the case, not enough cash reserves at the time.

Was walking Spring Carlisle car corral years back and there one sat. Couple of Mopar guys were discussing it and one mentioned he had a Roadrunner thet he thought was fast until it tangled with one of those 300's. He said it showed him taillights for a full quarter-mile.

Impressive performance for such a large car. Then again I like all the 60s 300's, letter car or not- the 63 and 64 especially. Must be that roofline that is so similar to same-year Starfires...
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Originally Posted by rocketraider
... one mentioned he had a Roadrunner thet he thought was fast until it tangled with one of those 300's. He said it showed him taillights for a full quarter-mile.
you should be able to do this with every 1970 chrysler 300 since the 300H had the same engine etc. ....i guess
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Originally Posted by Diego
It's a 300, not a Newport.
Same B body platform different sheet metal. So technically a 300 is a 300 not a Newport
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Originally Posted by droldsmorland
Same B body platform different sheet metal. So technically a 300 is a 300 not a Newport
It's a C-body. Hierarchy was Newport, Newport Custom, 300, and New Yorker, if memory serves correct.
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Originally Posted by Diego
It's a C-body. Hierarchy was Newport, Newport Custom, 300, and New Yorker, if memory serves correct.
Yep I think your right again Diego, C bodies not B. Dont forget the Imperials they're in the mix. Sharp cars. Loved the bird hood ornaments. Love these land yachts....got GM on my mind not Mother Mopar. The 300 shared the plush of the higher end B err C bodies interiors too, I believe pirated from the Imperial. Maybe some day Ill own one and get to get intimate with it like I am with my Oldsmobiles. Ahhh to win the lottery
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HO values

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Hi Aron, love the Flattop. What a winner of a car.

Dave, I see some 69's and a few 68's. Most are too high for me and too nice.
I need the ones that are drivers and have not been restored too much.
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And your budget is what? You do realize that HOs are expensive cars an one needs to have realistic expectations.


If your budget is tight focus on the 72s as they are far less spendy than the 68-69 cars. personally I would skip the '72 & jump to a '73 HO especially a V code car. Very nice examples can be had for $20K & driver quality cars for far less.
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I like the 73, but I thought it almost impossible to find a V code car?
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V code is 4 speed correct? If so, it is virtually impossible to find a v code h/o, since all h/o's were automatic.
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Old January 16th, 2014, 07:29 AM
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The 73 "V" code car had an engine with more hp. 270 hp vs 250 hp. I read somewhere that there were only 100 out of approx 1000 were made.
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Hemmings Muscle machines had a Buyers Guide this month on the Hurst SSJ. No performance upgrades. Just trim. JMO but they are cheesy cars.
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The 73 Hurst/Olds V code 455 car was designated the W46. Yes, they are scarce. The rest were U code 455's and the car was designated W45. Out of the 1,097 total 73 H/O's made, I'm not sure how many were the W46. I wouldn't be surprised if it was 100 to 200 at most. All W46's were non air cond. cars, while all W45's were air cond. equipped.

The V code 455 was the high performance engine used in 73 Cutlass, Cutlass S, 442, and Supreme with Muncie 4 speed trans. It was however offered in the H/O with a TH-400 behind it.

Also, basically the same V code engine was in all 74 H/O W30 models. The production run for the 74 H/O W30 was 380 cars. The biggest difference I can think of in the 74 V code 455 vs. the 73, is the 74 was equipped with a new invention called an HEI distributor.
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Hurst SSJ. JMO but they are cheesy cars.
Like the 73-75 H/O's weren't! (and I own a 74, so I can be this way!). Even on the 72 that half vinyl roof was nothing but cheesy.

Yup- Hurst cars tended to reflect their times, incorporating the latest cheesy styling tricks and fads.

Those of you who own them know that Hurst didn't take any real pains with the appearance conversions, since a lot of it was covered with vinyl anyway.
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The 73 Hurst/Olds V code 455 car was designated the W46. Yes, they are scarce. The rest were U code 455's and the car was designated W45. Out of the 1,097 total 73 H/O's made, I'm not sure how many were the W46. I wouldn't be surprised if it was 100 to 200 at most. All W46's were non air cond. cars, while all W45's were air cond.

The V code 455 was the high performance engine used in 73 Cutlass, Cutlass S, 442, and Supreme with Muncie 4 speed trans. It was however offered in the H/O with a TH-400 behind it.

Also, basically the same V code engine was in all 74 H/O W30 models. The production run for the 74 H/O W30 was 380 cars. The biggest difference I can think of in the 74 V code 455 vs. the 73, is the 74 was equipped with a new invention called an HEI distributor.
Gary, thanks for setting me straight. I was under the impression that V code cars were 455/4spd cars only.
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Yup- Hurst cars tended to reflect their times, incorporating the latest cheesy styling tricks and fads.
Not true. If they had the latest cheesy styling tricks that vinyl top would've been paisley.
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I think Mopar had a lock on that paisley vinyl roof, or was it flowers? Mod Top, they called it.

All I know is that gold-flecked vinyl on 72 H/O roofs looked a lot like my aunt's Daystrom dinette chairs... I was friends with the Daystrom plant manager's kids, and Mr. Piechota came back here for a Daystrom employee reunion a couple years back. I wish I had thought to ask him about that vinyl.
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I had a friend back in those days whos dad was affiliated with Hurst in some way. They had a 68 H/O, 69 H/O, and a 70 Hurst GP. Must have been nice. I dont know what ever happened to him or the cars. Last name was Gober
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The vinyl material they used for the 72 H/O's was a kitchen chair material from what I've been told.
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There was actually a division of employees that squeezed the farts out of the vinyl from the kitchen chairs. They got them from the shirt tail factory.
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What is your budget for a car & how serious are you? There are numerous 68-69 HOs for sale now. A quick check of ebay will show you at least one of each today. Let us know which one you buy.
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And your budget is what? You do realize that HOs are expensive cars an one needs to have realistic expectations.

Mere mortals can always dream...
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To find out all there is to know about George Hurst and his vehicles, pick up "Hurst Equipped" by Rich Truesdell.

It's available just about anywhere, usually less than $30.00.

He had some pretty amazing ideas, one of them is The Jaws of Life.
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Don't forget the drag cars they built:
  • 1968 Hemi powered LO23 Dodge Darts and similar Plymouth Barracudas
  • Hemi under Glass wheelstanders
and the greatest of them all:


THE HURST HAIRY OLDS
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