original or not?
#1
original or not?
i have an all original 69 cultass supreme that needs a paint job bad!
i was wondering if it would make a difference in the value to keep it original or to change the color
any ideas?
i was wondering if it would make a difference in the value to keep it original or to change the color
any ideas?
#2
Hey how are ya? Ive got a 69 Cutlass "S" that was bought new by my grandparents and I aqquired in 1987. Ive had many people tell me to repaint it black or red "..... 'cause thats what old cars should be painted!" Imagine a car culture full of only black and red cars! Mine came gold with a black vinyl top and I never had any intentions of changing it. To each their own but I would think that it could only add to the value both monetarily and sentimentally to keep it the original color. Best wishes with your decision...after it's YOUR car and you should do it like YOU want it. Don't let the nitpickers and naysayers get you ruffled! take care!
#3
Just keep in mind that if you change the color, you will have to deal with re-painting door jambs, inside the fenders, hood and trunk area. I had a '69 Supreme that was re-painted a Maaco shade of blue on the outside (lighter than original) and it always looked crappy when the doors or trunk were open.
BUT, do what makes you happy
BUT, do what makes you happy
#4
repaint it black or red "..... 'cause thats what old cars should be painted!"
There's a painter here who is totally hung up on Porsche Guards Red and has been since the early 80s. Every car he builds for himself is painted that color and if you have him paint one he will try his best to convince you to paint your car that color.
Being as I think very few cars truly look good in bright red, he'll never get the opportunity to spray a car for me.
Someone asked him a few years back if it was the only color he knew how to spray and he flew hot. He had actually thought "Hancock Red" was a compliment while the car crowd here were all laughing behind his back.
RE original question: it depends on the buyer. Some people like the painter referenced above want it "resale red" because they know it will move. OTOH someone who appreciates cars generally likes original color or something not quite as mainstream as red or black.
#5
Just keep in mind that if you change the color, you will have to deal with re-painting door jambs, inside the fenders, hood and trunk area. I had a '69 Supreme that was re-painted a Maaco shade of blue on the outside (lighter than original) and it always looked crappy when the doors or trunk were open.
BUT, do what makes you happy
BUT, do what makes you happy
#6
It all depends what color the car was originally. There were some butt ugly colors that were very popular back then. My 68 Elcamino SS396 was Grecian green. When i repainted it i can't even tell you how many people were telling me i ought to paint it back to that color. No way in hell.
There is no point in making the car something nice for the NEXT guy to enjoy- Paint it a color you would want and go with it.
Imagine its a brand new car and you get to go to a lot and pick one out- are you going to pick "Grecian Green" or "butternut yellow" or are you going to pick something else?
One more thought. You have a 69 cutlass supreme. Not a 442. Not W31.
What is the premium resale value for an absolutly MINT, STOCKish, fully restored 1969 cutlass supreme? $20k? Maybe on the best day prior to 2005 whent he market dropped out.
I'm not trying to insult the car- but what i'm getting at it- most NICE 69 cutlass Supremes probably wouldn't break the $15k barrier. Therefore- do what you want- Color change if done right w/ quality bodywork will NOT negitively affect the value- instead, it will likely help to boost your car to the upper part of the value range for the car.
If the car had more collector interest- such as a 442, W31, sometehing owned by linda vaugn, etc etc... then I would say, repaint it as original.
But without the collecability demands on strict originality... Go with what you want and don't worry about the value.
edit... I fully appologize for my cruddy spelling.
There is no point in making the car something nice for the NEXT guy to enjoy- Paint it a color you would want and go with it.
Imagine its a brand new car and you get to go to a lot and pick one out- are you going to pick "Grecian Green" or "butternut yellow" or are you going to pick something else?
One more thought. You have a 69 cutlass supreme. Not a 442. Not W31.
What is the premium resale value for an absolutly MINT, STOCKish, fully restored 1969 cutlass supreme? $20k? Maybe on the best day prior to 2005 whent he market dropped out.
I'm not trying to insult the car- but what i'm getting at it- most NICE 69 cutlass Supremes probably wouldn't break the $15k barrier. Therefore- do what you want- Color change if done right w/ quality bodywork will NOT negitively affect the value- instead, it will likely help to boost your car to the upper part of the value range for the car.
If the car had more collector interest- such as a 442, W31, sometehing owned by linda vaugn, etc etc... then I would say, repaint it as original.
But without the collecability demands on strict originality... Go with what you want and don't worry about the value.
edit... I fully appologize for my cruddy spelling.
Last edited by RAMBOW; September 20th, 2011 at 11:22 AM. Reason: I still can't spell
#8
It is your car as others have said, but some colors tend to grow on you trust me I know. I wasn't real fond of the gold my car was when I got, but deceided to keep it. As far as I'm concerned I made a good choice.
Jon
Jon
#13
Now it's spray-can pink with pretty good surface prep, and plenty of spray dust that needs to be rubbed out.
Chicks dig it (but don't tell my wife - she thinks it's a girly color ).
- Eric
#14
Mum's the word, and agreed. bright colours do tend to attract the ladies.
Did you have it painted or did you do the colour yourself? I picked up some paint recently and I'm going to lay on my first basecoat of bamboo yellow soon. (the picture in my avatar was some cheap bamboo-ish colour I painted my car back in colour.
Did you have it painted or did you do the colour yourself? I picked up some paint recently and I'm going to lay on my first basecoat of bamboo yellow soon. (the picture in my avatar was some cheap bamboo-ish colour I painted my car back in colour.
#16
Are you looking to paint it so you can sell it, or because you plan to keep it and use it? If you want to paint it to sell it, keep it something that will please most people, and original color is usually a good choice. Lime Green with purple stripes may be your favorite, but it probably won't help you sell it if that is your plan. High end cars are generally more valuable when original or rerstored to original and that would include color. But if you are doing it for you, you have a lot more lattitude to do it the way you want it.
#17
thanks for the opinions! my car was originally polimino gold with a brown top and i replaced the top with a black one
Im planning on keeping the car because i can only do a few things at a time because im only 16 and money is a big obstacle.
Im planning on keeping the car because i can only do a few things at a time because im only 16 and money is a big obstacle.
#18
Did it myself - rattle cans, baby!
This is a high-mile rust bucket that is NOT worth restoring, but is still good for lots of fun. There was no way I was going to spend any money I didn't have to on paint. I found a shade I liked in Valspar (after looking through my ENTIRE collection of DuPont paint chips from 1948 to 1985), spent more time than I should have priming it and fixing chips and dings (no, I did NOT try to make it perfect), and then painted it one panel at a time. I had wanted to paint it all at once, like you normally do, but the spray pattern was just too small, and the whole car would have been nothing but spray dust. It's got some dusty spots and some crappy spots, but I'll probably rub it out in the spring, when the enamel is good and dry (I've always painted in lacquer in the past, but good luck finding acrylic lacquer these days).
Because of the small spray pattern, I really can't recommend spray cans for panels this large, but they do save you the trouble of dragging around an air hose, and cleaning guns, and you don't have to be concerned about clouds of spray dust tinting the neighbors' patio furniture.
- Eric
This is a high-mile rust bucket that is NOT worth restoring, but is still good for lots of fun. There was no way I was going to spend any money I didn't have to on paint. I found a shade I liked in Valspar (after looking through my ENTIRE collection of DuPont paint chips from 1948 to 1985), spent more time than I should have priming it and fixing chips and dings (no, I did NOT try to make it perfect), and then painted it one panel at a time. I had wanted to paint it all at once, like you normally do, but the spray pattern was just too small, and the whole car would have been nothing but spray dust. It's got some dusty spots and some crappy spots, but I'll probably rub it out in the spring, when the enamel is good and dry (I've always painted in lacquer in the past, but good luck finding acrylic lacquer these days).
Because of the small spray pattern, I really can't recommend spray cans for panels this large, but they do save you the trouble of dragging around an air hose, and cleaning guns, and you don't have to be concerned about clouds of spray dust tinting the neighbors' patio furniture.
- Eric
#19
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Ummm, as always, nice car Eric! Proof positive that Mary Kay will never die.....I'd bet you could have saved even more $ and time if you bought a gallon and rolled it on. Nice to see it has a front end now. Let's see a photo spread of the ol gal! (the car, not your wife)
#20
lol Eric , I was not going to comment on your car color unless of course someone else did .....btw your car looks good , the rust must be on the sides cause I dont see any from where im sitting.
#21
(pic from my gallery)
... Believe me, Bry, you'd see it if you were sitting where I am !
- Eric
Last edited by MDchanic; September 20th, 2011 at 08:14 PM.
#24
If you have a dookie brown paint with puke green interior.....change it.
You can only IMPROVE the value of the car.
IMHO red is the hottest color on a 442.
But there are so many NEWER cooler colors out there that will really make your
car look outstanding and unique. I say paint the ENTIRE car tho, jambs and all.
I'm not trying to insult the car- but what i'm getting at it- most NICE 69 cutlass Supremes probably wouldn't break the $15k barrier. Therefore- do what you want- Color change if done right w/ quality bodywork will NOT negitively affect the value- instead, it will likely help to boost your car to the upper part of the value range for the car.
Be thankful you don't have the barriers of doubt around you with an all original rare car.
This is a better pallet to create your own unique vehicle.
Last edited by Aceshigh; September 20th, 2011 at 08:16 PM.
#25
Paint it any color you like. It is your car and you should like it without worrying about resale. As mentioned, some colors actually increase value. If it were a numbers matching W-30 that you were planning on selling or showing it should be the original color. Be sure and do the door jams and under the hood and trunck or it will look like crap.
#26
Thanks man! I really appreciate the comment. In case you missed it check out my thread. "Dear God what have I done?" '69 Cutlass S makeover, for the transformation.
Jon
#27
Eric,
Pretty sweet job! The blocksanding you did turned out pretty nice.
I know how you feel, i've spent wayyyy too much time patching up my cutlass (it's currently on battleship grey primer) and i just want to get down to painting it.
But then again, battleship grey is pretty awesome, i guess..
Pretty sweet job! The blocksanding you did turned out pretty nice.
I know how you feel, i've spent wayyyy too much time patching up my cutlass (it's currently on battleship grey primer) and i just want to get down to painting it.
But then again, battleship grey is pretty awesome, i guess..
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