agtw31

see,i can do the same thing they did:

20 years ago,at East Conyers auto parts there was a panther pink 440 challenger with no stripes in the yard

it was the only 1 in the junkyard

therefore,it must be 1 of 1

Diego

It reminds me of threads all over that ask, "Anyone know how many of my car exist?"

Um . . have you asked God? Ok, so you are an agnostic - how are you gonna figure it out otherwise? A registry? OK, so what registry has EVERY car? And, besides, who cares?

alsip455

i own the 67 w30 in mcr and they did screw up a little it had a 425 switched and i told the man it had around 425-450hp now i live in cincinnati not norwalk some times these guys write to make u read. to'' you know it alls'' it is real and yes we have 2 of them olds wasnt able to do the things dodge chevy were allowed to do. hurst is more than a shifter they had a van in the 60;s that hung at the track to just repair your car for free with thier stuff. they had a lot of neat toys , so to say in short call it as u will i have the all the papers and mcr did see this their is a lot we dont know about olds and find it out as we go doug

TK-65

I dont believe a word of the article that featured your car.

alsip455

not everone will but iam still all olds which i have over 20 of them was u around in 67 and driving

wmachine

It would help your cause if you just pony up some proof and realize that any form of just arguing about it isn't going to change a thing, least of which is what any of us think.

So for new information, we *now* find out it is a 425.

alsip455

i told mcr it was a425 with around 450 hp now'' i emailed mcr to change the mistake but already print so they said would add it later in another issue and other just copy info on and on i cant stop that their has been many that has seen the paper work i dont carry it evey were but as u said it doesnt matter i know thats all that matters iam not out to sell it or prove it it is what it is to be honest dont care what you think or what others think their lots of w30s around that are fake ive been around olds for over 30 years and meet lots of people and will keep showing this car as it is not trying to fake anything so thanks for your concern

wmachine

Well thank you, and good luck with your Oldsmobiles. I'm glad you came forward and cleared that up.

1969w3155

If you don't care what anyone thinks, then why post here? Because you did not clear up anything.

toro68

Muscle Review(formerly Muscle Car review), said in a July 1986 issues (in readers section, under Fast Front-Wheel Driver), they would feature a "400 hp" W-34 Toronado (1968 model, or otherwise) , if one was found.
I can tell they did not work too, to feature an example in their magazine, never did an article (heck there was 5,341 Toronado GTs for 1970 ).
About 20(+/-) years ago, Rocketradier wrote to them, and mentioned, more attetion should be given to W-34 Toronado, W-33 Detlas, W-32 (1969 442 and 1970 SX Cutlass).

TK-65

In the post on Oldsmobility about the car, you are quoted as saying the car has a 68 Toro 455. And in the MCR feature you are quoted as saying Hurst used the car to test out the 455s which they were going to use in the 68s. Now is all of this made up? Did you not claim these things?

Ive met guys that make claims like this but never offer up any proof, like the 67 tri-power GTO, the w31 Rallye 350, etc. All claims with no proof and you get no where debating them about it.

So enjoy your car, but dont think for a minute I believe this story.

wmachine

I discussed doing a feature on my "all original" 1970 W34 with them (even talked to Tom Shaw) back in 1992. They said to send pics, and I did. They told me to get back to them after I "detailed it" under the hood. (It was clean, but unrestored). Yeah, like I'm going to destroy the originality of the car for them. Needless to say, that is as far as it went.

67 Cutlass

I think I have that issue and can't find a 67 W30 in it. It has a 70 W30, 66 442, 70 Rallye 350, picture like the 83 Hurst stolen at the OCA Nats last year and a 455 build by Mondello. Almost forgot the 61 Super 88.
Do I have the wrong magazine being discussed here? Either way, I'll cherish this rare current magazine with the Oldsmobile features in it.

wmachine

You need to read through the posts, Mike. This '67 was brought up in post #27. Not said to be in the current issue.

toro68

Its stories this like, why I dropped MC, back in the early 1990s.

67 Cutlass

Thanks Kurt. My bad. I'm kinda embarrassed now . At least I can laugh about it though.

Good thing is I still have the MCR November '09 issue

alsip455

look half of the stuff in that article was what they wanted to put out as quote'' we need more readers unquote'' they were told that in 68 olds was using a 455 as the new 400 with toro and hurst olds , but this was all mixed in and crossed up. the ad in oldsmobilly was done by a guy who put it in that way because of the way we told him that we punched the 425 out to be around a 455 to make 450hp i never did really try to change it, but were in mcr as the alsip family read real close it has me as a son of two men and u will see the other 67 in this photo. the mag can make u or break u i live in cincinnati not norwalk as the article reads this is what i mean.a lot of people just past it on and change things around to get u to read, olds readers doesnt compare to chevy readers in mcr.i will tell u this i know their is no other family that owns olds as much as we do, but after that article ran u see a hell of alot more oldsmobiles

aliensatemybuick

When it comes to competitive bullsh*tting, you take win, place AND show.

"Someone else got it mixed up", "They were trying to sell magazines" etc etc.

Since you too the time to create a user ID on this site, here's your chance. Tell us the complete story about the car. Explain the circumstances of when and where it was bought, by whom, what documentation exists, what year and cubic inch displacement motor was put in the car, by WHOM, WHERE and WHEN (down to the month). What other mods were done to the car, again by WHOM, WHERE and WHEN (down to the month). Was the car already modified when purchased new or were the mods done afterwards? What did it cost? What is the build date of the car? What is the date code on the block? That kind of thing. Tell us. As many facts as you can provide.

Try and leave out the smoke and mirrors shtick. For example, suggesting that by lying about your car, the publisher would get more people to buy that particular issue if their magazine. No one here is that dumb.

alsip455

i hope u dont talk to your mother like that look me up sometime love to talk face to face you know man to man i will get this straight down to a tee not for you but for the real readers u know its always the same guys that cry wolf because you know everthing about olds. to let all others outside this group i will post all intell with pics. its a shame that you guys are such airheads and uptight about olds but like chevy guys theres plenty in every posting u say bull sh===== i say know it all not

aliensatemybuick

Blah blah blah. My Mother and Father always tought me that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, and that when people don't have any, they try to baffle you with...you guessed it...BS!

I love the Hurst shifter in your car, by the way.

wmachine

Please do tell. As I (and others now) said, "Just the facts, please".
If you're here to argue, you are most certainly in the wrong place.
You can ramble all you want. Even discounting the MCR article, I've otherwise hear your claims and, and saw your car *and display items*. And unless you have something new, you have *nothing*.
But I'm always willing to listen. To facts and reason, not claims and chest pounding.
So please just put it up or, well you know. As was just said, you have the platform here to state the facts and clear the air. It is your choice.

wolfman98

This has been an interesting read and somewhat informative but I did not read the article or have the magazine so I am not sure about everything being claimed about this car , accurate or not. It's a 67 Hurst Olds W30 with a 425 and column shift auto? Plus he has 2 or 2 others identical? how rare is that.

Summerof84

Hmmm, always was stated as a '68 455 put in by Olds for Hurst. Now it's a 425 "we" punched out to 455. On a 24k or some such original miles car. How odd. "Hurst Equipped", but no Hurst items except a badge. How "odder"!

alsip455

did u miss the hurst wheels which are in my shop they dont stay on the car it has rear air bags in the springs and other little hurst iems also i dont claim to be hurst olds just hurst equipped check around hurst did a lot of cars in the 60,s and 70,s kurt as i said i will be at the homecoming with all u guys jst know eveything i have seen your cars that doesnt make you a olds x-pert not tryin o be a a====hole but thats a fact aslo

Oldsguy

This thread, and subject matter herein, is finished.