Hey what's going on fellas? I'm new on here, I found a 1970 oldsmobile delta 88 w33 at a lien yard, the odometer says 37k miles so I asked where the car came from and supposedly it was sitting in a Darryl mini storage since 1983... had my mechanic go through it and see what it needed to get it going. A very reputable shop, he says the millage is original and the original spark plugs from AC delco were in the trunk. Had some work done to it, basically gave it a massive tune up. But what would something like that be worth? The body needs some work but it's not in the worst condition, interior needs work also, but the motor is in immaculant condition. I have no idea on the value of the car if anybody can help me out I'd appreciate it... thanks

 

How do you know it's a W33 car?

 

#1 If you bought it as an investment, depending what you paid and the work needed to be done, you likely will not make money.
#2 How many fingers am I holding up ?

It would be hard to venture a guess what a ball park "value" would be without knowing....
A/C ?
Power steering ?
Power brakes ?
What transmission ? Manual or automatic. Which transmission ?
What engine ? I assume a 455, since you said it was a W-33.
What front brakes ? Disc or drum ? How well are the brakes working ?
How much work needed on the interior ?
How much body work needed ? Any rust ?
How well does the engine run ?

 

Valve covers were blue but painted black, the water pump was blue also, had to be replaced

 

Engine runs great, again it has 37k original miles, I'll try to upload a video. It has minimal surface rust nothing major, it's automatic, and yes it's a 455 4bbl and dual exhaust

 

@joe_padavano Because you told me on Facebook Oldsmobile of america, a while ago lol it has the OL transmission and the dual exhaust.... I couldn't get into my Facebook

 

Any paperwork at all?

 

I'm gonna look for the build sheet under the back seat tomorrow it's raining like cats and dogs right now but I can garuntee it's a true w33, it has the OL transmission, dual exhaust, #7040257 rochester quadrajet carb

 

I spoke with somebody earlier today and he was telling me to look under the back seat for the build sheet, so I'm gonna do that tomorrow some time

 

$5000-7500

 

Is that with or without W-33/B-07?

 

I'm not too sure but being that there were only 8k W33's built in 1970, I can only imagine how many are still on the road.... Sounds kind of low, for being super rare from my understanding but you guys know more then me on the subject so I can't really say too much

 

The carburetor itself is going for $1500... try to find a #7040257 Rochester Quadrajet, same carb from a cutlass

 

Value has a lot to do with distance between buyer and seller. I am not going to spend over $3000 for a car, I cant see touch and put on a lift. It would cost prob $1000 for me to fly out rent a car look at your car stay in hotel and fly home Then It would prob cost bout $2500 to get it home. Now if the car was within 500 miles of me I would be on my way with my rollback I will pay more for a car within 500 mles.vs 2900 Lets us know when you decide on a price

 

If the car was built in Lansing (M), there may be a broadcast card (about 4" x 8" with very limited information) under a seat, under the carpet, or on top of the gas tank. If it was built in another assembly plant (D = Doraville, X = Kansas City, or C = South Gate), there may be an 8 1/2" x 11" build sheet.

 

For further verification, you can check the number on the OL transmission and verify that it matches the VIN. The number is on the driver side and is readily visible.

 

Rarity only translates to value if there's enough demand for the rare item. If there's little to no demand, then it doesn't add much value unfortunately.

 

I'm just being honest. It really doesn't have much of a market outside of the OCA. It's a Delta, not a 442 or Cutlass. And, I wouldn't exactly call it "attractive" in that lovely brown.

 

You could always list it for $10-12k obo. Go high because of COVID. Plus, any buyer is going to low-ball you. Then; like Tony Montana said, you can meet in the middle.

Unfortunately, W33 and the number on the carburetor don't really matter since it's a Delta 88.

 

Is this still a factor in the collector car market?

 

May seem like minor stuff, but did you keep the old parts? The water pump should have had the X casting on it and the power disc brake master cylinder would have looked much different than this one.

 

Yes, I think so. Whether because of COVID, the economy, supply chain shortages, etc. Dealers have jacked up the prices of new and used cars so classics should follow suit.

 

Possibly mitigated by the recession we keep getting told we're having.

And yes, that MC definitely looks like a drum brake unit.

 

Sheesh the high performance w33 gets no love/respect, and I can honestly say that most of the people that disrespect the W33 either never seen one in person, let alone get behind the wheel and drive a W33... Being this is a olds forum there should be more of a positive outlook on cars from the same Era and especially the same company,let alone a car that has more ***** then any stock cutlass around... Think about it, if the value of the delta was more appreciated then the value of a cutlass or a 442 would be greatly more appreciated, until A rapper or Jay Leno get ahold of a w33 and start boasting about how rare and awesome they look, then the people start following... don't act like there's no brown cutlass or 442, just saying

 

Didnt know a delta 88 can look so sexy huh

 

Oh I get it, attached is a link to one I purchased several years ago. Its a 1969 and they didn't call it the W33 until 1970, but this one has the police interceptor package. I've also got a 1969 Toronado with the W34 package. Remember that rare doesn't always mean valuable. To the right person your car is treasure. But there's not nearly as large a following for these cars as the Cutlass/442.

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Thats a bad *** car bro, people dont appreciate these cars at all... lol until like I said a big time rapper or a big celebrity jumps on a one then they'll be trending, that's how it is today, too many followers...

 

If its not too late to get the old parts that you replaced here some pictures of what they should have looked like. These parts could cost a couple to a few hundred dollars just as rebuildable cores. The master cylinder will have the proportioning valve bolted under the master cylinder. And an application code stamped into the flat spot in the front of it. It will have the double bale latches on the top. Then the water pump with the X code was used I believe from 1968 through 1970, and is also the correct one for the W30, W31 and 442's which creates a demand for them. These are on a 1970 Olds 98, but your car should have had them as well. Let me know if you have any questions. John

 

So are looking at this car as something you really like and want to own, drive, and enjoy? Or are looking at it as something you are trying to flip for a profit?

Kinda sounds like the latter to me.

 

whoever says that's not a beautiful car doesn't deserve to drive a Olds

 

"whoever says that's not a beautiful car doesn't deserve to drive a Olds"

You are not going to make friends here by insulting others who may not enjoy the full sized cars. If you want to keep it crawl over it real well and make a plan what you want to do to it. If your wanting to sell it there have been some numbers suggested to you.

 

Well I'm thinking about putting some money into it, I would also like to understand exactly what I'm putting my money into and see what I can do with her, eventually when I do sell it, of course I want to get back a Lil more then I put into it... I've owned her for a while now and barely got the chance to drive the car, put some money into her but I'm enjoying the process and I want to have the car for a while before I let her go... if that answers any questions

 

I just had the water pump put on last week, need to ask about that, has the master cylinder was done like last month I doubt he still has it. I'll find out tomorrow and get back to you, I appreciate that John. I'm Chris by the way

 

It does. What threw me is I woulda thought you’d post a bunch of pictures of your car, the one you love, and not other peoples’ cars from the internet.

 

You have a unique Oldsmobile - enjoy it. You have a 390 hp 455 cubic inch engine. carburetor shared with the standard 442 (not a W30), heavy duty transmission (OL), and a 2.92 rear axle - it may not accelerate with some of the better-known muscle cars, but it will certainly outperform them in stretches that exceed a quarter mile. There is a book entitled Oldsmobile W-Powered Muscle Cars by David Newhardt that has several pages dedicated to the W-33 (a one-year option) and includes information about the evolution of the W-33 from the 1998 Police Interceptor through the termination of the program after 1970 as a result of emission standards that became effective with the 1971 model year. It will be easy to spend money on the car because many of the parts are difficult to find (many B-Body reproduction parts are not available because of the relatively low demand). If you are not already a member of the Oldsmobile Club of America or one of the chapters in California, you might consider a membership to facilitate access to a nationwide network of others who share your interest.

There are resources that can help you with decoding the cowl tag and determining what options were ordered with the car. Options available included heavy duty cooling and alternator, heavy duty frame, automatic transmission oil cooler, highway patrol suspension, heavy duty front disc brakes, heavy duty wheels, police speedometer certification, and wiring harness for roof flasher.

I encourage you to keep the car stock - and retain its originality for others to appreciate. If you elect to sell it, please find someone who will restore it to what it was when it rolled off the assembly line.

 

8,000 W-33's is not exactly what I would call "super rare". There are no outward visual differences from your car and any other "88".

B bodies and W-33's are not highly desired. The W-33 was not a "high performance" car. You could say it may have "enhanced" engine and suspension items. If you are comparing horsepower ratings in 1970, the A bodies are rated lower for insurance reasons. As far as having "more ***** than any stock Cutlass", what do you base this statement on ?
The pics of the cars you posted are cars that have been finished and they do look nice. But, you'll need to spend $20,000 or so to get to that condition.

 

You can make it more desirable if you were to put the wing on the trunk

 

We told you the truth about the value of Delta 88s and 98s. It's sad, but the big cars don't have as big a following as the Cutlii. You'd find the same thing on any classic car forum.

^^^THIS^^^

 

I don't think you should be telling us what should or shouldn't be happening here with what was 9 posts to your name when you wrote this. You don't know what has been said or done here.

Sounds like you bought before you did your homework, got taken, and want us to tell you you got a good deal when you didn't and now you don't like what you hear.