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I came across a 69 Olds locally and the seller suggested that the car is very rare. its a 69 post car (F85) which from my research suggests it was a bare bones car. It has a Ram Rod 350 with the dual snorkels under the front bumper. The car seems to be in good shape but its a few hours away.
So, it has scoops under the front bumper, its an F-85 and a "post" car. They probably didn't make a lot of them.
"Rare" is a subjective word. Does "Rare" make it more valuable ? No. Most people prefer hard tops.
You need to know if the engine is original with matching VIN derivitive number. Is the transmission the original ? Is the radiator for an HD cooling system ? Is the rear differential the original and correct ?
Engine with all its original parts and numbers matching transmission would obviously be a good start. According to what I read, there were 106 Post Coupes in ‘69.
Last edited by Bigmikey65; Oct 20, 2022 at 08:08 AM.
So, 1969, 3277 GM F-85 V-8 Spoort Coupe, 212 W-31 made out of a total 913. Found this in book "Good Old Days" Oldsmobile 1964thru 1972 A-Bodies. By Mike (Michael J.) Siedlik. It's been out of print since 2015.
Some people don't like the book for whatever reasons but it's a number.
From what I have gathered, The motor appears to be original although aftermarket intake/carb, the trans has been swapped to a 4 speed from presumbly an auto trans and an aftermarket Rad.
Listing:
I think legitimate W-31s have crossed the rarity line that private sellers of pedigree and good salesmen have them. Sleazy salesmen and dirtbags and flakes do not. I would be especially predisposed to doubt the authenticity of a W car sold by someone who was a slimeball.
Assuming it were a 'real' W-31 and at least somewhat complete, $12k is a hell of a deal. The only outside shot of it looks pretty decent. Either the seller has no idea what it actually is OR he knows full well it's a base post Cutlass and not a real W-31. My money's on the second. If you're interested, reach out to some of the W-31 experts on this forum. I know '69's well but I'm no W-31 expert. These days, $12k is actually a good price for a nice base Cutlass so even if it's not a W car, it might still make a nice ride for that money.
Get the serial number and pay GM Vintage Vehicle Services for a vehicle history package.
that’s if it was sold new in Canada. If it was brought up to Canada sometime during its life, then you are out of luck for absolute proof.
69 W31’s are one of the easiest to fake. Some scoops, hoses and a fanned up dual snorkel air cleaner base. The carb is probably the rarest thing on the car. But restamps are easy to get.
Get him to give you more details like a pic of the firewall plate or any historical info on it
The minimum you should do is get the sellers package from the Ministry to find out who previously owned it and contact them to find out about the car. $20 is worth it
Get the serial number and pay GM Vintage Vehicle Services for a vehicle history package.
that’s if it was sold new in Canada. If it was brought up to Canada sometime during its life, then you are out of luck for absolute proof.
69 W31’s are one of the easiest to fake. Some scoops, hoses and a fanned up dual snorkel air cleaner base. The carb is probably the rarest thing on the car. But restamps are easy to get.
Get him to give you more details like a pic of the firewall plate or any historical info on it
Would be very interesting to see what you come up with. It seems too good to be true. This will be your only shot at authenticating it, and as noted, otherwise it's just another Olds.
I am not alleging that this is a scam. However, the wording of ad specifying that they will contact you, along with the price point, are consistent with what you often see in scam offerings. You should see this car and the title in person even if you authentic it.
