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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 09:56 AM
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How Does This Sell For $6600???

Real 442.......Frame bent, roof caved in, A-pillar bent


$6,600 today on Copart:





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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 10:13 AM
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1. Maybe something about the moter? F heads?
2. Stupidity
3. Large amount of drugs in the trunk.

Any other ideas?

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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 10:18 AM
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Maybe someone has a stolen mint one at home and needs a title and vin .
Old Feb 5, 2015 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Rustbucket2
Maybe someone has a stolen mint one at home and needs a title and vin .

Or they're intending to hide a clone.
Old Feb 5, 2015 | 10:52 AM
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Maybe it was sold at Barrett Jackson!
Old Feb 5, 2015 | 11:03 AM
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I agree with Rustbucket2, best way to make a stolen car legit again, swap tags and there you have it! One scrap hot car and a clean one for the road.
Old Feb 5, 2015 | 11:39 AM
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NY isn't titled before 73 but it's hard to believe anyone would want to rebody this. It might be the original owner bidding on it to try and get it back.
Old Feb 5, 2015 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by allyolds68
NY isn't titled before 73 but it's hard to believe anyone would want to rebody this. It might be the original owner bidding on it to try and get it back.
This was my first thought. Some kind of sentimental value.

I'm not arguing the fact that there might be something else going on though, like what already been suggested.
Old Feb 5, 2015 | 03:16 PM
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It'll buff out
Old Feb 5, 2015 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rustbucket2
Maybe someone has a stolen mint one at home and needs a title and vin .
I would second this, because in theory it makes sense. But a few things:

a.) even then, wouldn't it be cheaper to find another car, even if it was also totaled out? Thieves dont like to pay for things.. so if they had a stolen car at home, why would they pay almost 7 grand to cover up that car?

b.) most thieves don't steal cars to keep for themselves, they steal them to commit crimes with them and burn the out immediately after/ or to sell to a chop shop. More logically they could have one ducked off in a warehouse or other remote location, this would make the most sense if they were looking for a "donor" car to swap the numbers from.

c.) wouldn't the car posted in the O.P. have a salvage title? As far as I know, cars with salvage titles cannot be registered, thus making the effort to cover up a hot car moot. Perhaps in some areas you can register the car with a salvage title (Rebuilt, i believe?) , but that would affect the value of the car.. practically making it worthless, no?

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NY isn't titled before 73 but it's hard to believe anyone would want to rebody this. It might be the original owner bidding on it to try and get it back.
Original owner? Unlikely. If the previous owner and the original owner are two separate people:

1.) The previous owner could have bought the car back from the insurance company had they totaled it out.

2.) how would the original owner know it was his car? VIN I suppose.. but even then, what are the odds of that? Must have been some really, really good memories in that car. [Or in the back seat rather, with several pairs of size 4 draws tucked in the back seats ]
Old Feb 5, 2015 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dredluxx

Original owner? Unlikely. If the previous owner and the original owner are two separate people:

1.) The previous owner could have bought the car back from the insurance company had they totaled it out.

2.) how would the original owner know it was his car? VIN I suppose.. but even then, what are the odds of that? Must have been some really, really good memories in that car. [Or in the back seat rather, with several pairs of size 4 draws tucked in the back seats ]

Obviously I meant the previous owner. If was on Copart the current owner is the insurance company
Old Feb 5, 2015 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by allyolds68
Obviously I meant the previous owner.

You should be a bit more specific. When talking classics, no telling what someone would do to get their hands on a car they loved but sold many, many years ago.

If was on Copart the current owner is the insurance company
my mistake, i did not know that.
Old Feb 5, 2015 | 04:26 PM
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A little elbow,grease and polishing compound - that'll buff right out.
Old Feb 5, 2015 | 04:30 PM
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If you have a pretty nice Cutlass body, then that plus this one's paperwork makes for a real 442, which commands more money than a Cutlass. Plus, being a '69 it "can be" a W30 by adding parts.
Old Feb 5, 2015 | 06:56 PM
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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 07:27 PM
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Even smashed it looks cooler than most new cars.
Old Feb 5, 2015 | 07:33 PM
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A little elbow,grease and polishing compound - that'll buff right out.
Better patent that compound. Can't tell you how many times I wish I could fix this kind of mess with elbow grease and compound.
Old Feb 5, 2015 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by allyolds68
Real 442.......Frame bent, roof caved in, A-pillar bent


$6,600 today on Copart:





that is really baffling
when you initially told me about this before auction I thought 2500-3000
due to drive train, interior and misc
but 6600 someone just had to have a sable brown 69 auto 442 w special affects
Old Feb 6, 2015 | 10:44 AM
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just needs a little bondo and you're good to go.
Old Feb 6, 2015 | 02:53 PM
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If it won't buff out he could call these guys!
http://dentbustersnc.com

Pretty sure they could fix it in an hour or two and their system is paintless to boot.

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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 04:10 PM
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 04:42 PM
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My old man is a television repair man, he's got this ultimate set of tools, I can fix it.

Lol classic
Old Feb 6, 2015 | 05:48 PM
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6600.00, big deal...its a bargain for a whole car compared to the 1200.00 dollar 1969 cutlass grille's on ebay
Old Feb 6, 2015 | 07:12 PM
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6600.00, big deal...its a bargain for a whole car compared to the 1200.00 dollar 1969 cutlass grille's on ebay
Yeah, and you get such a nice grille with the car, too...



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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 07:13 PM
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Well with a good parts car it could be fixed. Alot of work yes, but look at how many replace entire floor pans, quarters, all of the rusty cars that have been brought back to life. Or how many do body off restos. I would love to resurect it just for the fun and pleasure of knowing what i accomplished. With the exception of the roof, most of it is bolt on parts. Get the frame straightened or put a new one under it and your good to go. KAOOTS, Keep another Olds on the streets! I have a 69 Cutlass with no title, could supply everything this car needs.

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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 08:52 PM
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Must be an internet auction w/spell check gone bad. Ad said Completely creamed. Spell check changed it to complete creampuff. Buyers name was Mr. Maggoo. Kidding aside, it reminds me of Grave Yard Cars where they rebuilt a car that was totaled and buried in the ground for years. I would not attemp it but if the buyer has the knowledge to fix and paint it himself at least it's saved from the scrap yard. Sure would like to know what becomes of this one.

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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 06:24 AM
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I've bidded on a couple of cars on CoPart and I haven't had a lot of luck so far. They just seem to selling for a little to much for me to justify getting any of them.

When you also figure in the buyer's fees and transportation cost for this car you're talking some real money.
Old Feb 7, 2015 | 06:39 AM
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I anticipate having it ready for Mecum Houston in April......jk
Old Feb 7, 2015 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Olds442redberet
I've bidded on a couple of cars on CoPart and I haven't had a lot of luck so far. They just seem to selling for a little to much for me to justify getting any of them.

When you also figure in the buyer's fees and transportation cost for this car you're talking some real money.

I bought a Hobie Cat Get-A-Way sailboat last fall for $625 and with the fees it was $950 out the door (I picked it up). I put about $800 into it and sold it for $4200. I think there are some good deals. The classic cars seem to fetch pretty big $$$. I'm looking for a boat right now but there isn't much in the winter. I like it because it seems to be mostly dealers, who are in it to make a buck so they aren't going to overpay like drunk Barrett-Jackson buyers. The best deals are the donated vehicles and boats because they usually need a little work. That's what the Hobie Cat was. NY sucks because you need a dealer's license to purchase anything with a title. Without a dealers license you need to pay a broker at least another $150 plus you have to give them a deposit.
Old Feb 7, 2015 | 03:37 PM
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You would think the Auction house would have shown a little more respect to the recently departed 442 by not placing next to Bloody Prius, how degrading !!
Old Feb 7, 2015 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by lazy394
You would think the Auction house would have shown a little more respect to the recently departed 442 by not placing next to Bloody Prius, how degrading !!

in comparison, the 442 looks better than the Prius, even on it's worst days.
Old Feb 7, 2015 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dredluxx
in comparison, the 442 looks better than the Prius, even on it's worst days.
Funny how damaged Attractive will always look better than ugly, damaged or not. Harley Earl was quoted as saying 'Oblongs are more attractive than squares'...whether that's true or not the sentiment in my eyes is true.

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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by steverw
Well with a good parts car it could be fixed. Alot of work yes, but look at how many replace entire floor pans, quarters, all of the rusty cars that have been brought back to life. Or how many do body off restos. I would love to resurect it just for the fun and pleasure of knowing what i accomplished. With the exception of the roof, most of it is bolt on parts. Get the frame straightened or put a new one under it and your good to go. KAOOTS, Keep another Olds on the streets! I have a 69 Cutlass with no title, could supply everything this car needs.
This.

Change out the hood, grille, bumper, driver's fender and door and all you've got left is the roof, rear quarter and possibly straighten out the front of the frame. A big job, yes, but totally doable. I'd rather fix this one than a rust bucket.

I can tell by the front driver's wheel that it didn't bend behind it, so if there's any frame repair it will be in the immediate front, which is not that big of a deal. Although, $6600 is a bit extreme.
Old Feb 7, 2015 | 08:34 PM
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Well, one thing we have not talked about is how good the unscathed portion of this car shows a very well maintained car. The owner must have been devastated. You have to admit the results of this damage cant look good on an insurance application. (ok, it had to hurt the owner of a well kept car to loose it in this way). On the other hand he probably got way too sideways and well "S" happens. Been there.
Old Feb 8, 2015 | 03:41 PM
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Apparently $6600 wasn't enough to buy it. It's back listed to auction tomorrow with a starting bid of $6600. Maybe the insurance co just shilled it up to $6600




http://ww2.copart.com/us/Lot/1462079...chId=549857268
Old Feb 8, 2015 | 03:43 PM
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Wow !!!
Old Feb 12, 2015 | 06:09 PM
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I almost went to a friends shop to bid on it today, but I figured it was just a waste of time. I don't have that kind of money.

Did anyone see what it sold for?
Old Feb 15, 2015 | 08:51 AM
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I can't believe anyone would pay than much for a 442 that is completely destroyed. There is another 69 Oldsmobile 442 on copart right now with a buy it now of $3500. Looks like it has been sitting for years.

http://ww2.copart.com/us/Lot/1376039...hId=1321131134

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Old Feb 15, 2015 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 70olds455
I can't believe anyone would pay than much for a 442 that is completely destroyed. There is another 69 Oldsmobile 442 on copart right now with a buy it now of $3500. Looks like it has been sitting for years.

http://ww2.copart.com/us/Lot/1376039...hId=1321131134
Is that a SpeedMinder speedo ?!?!
Old Feb 15, 2015 | 11:24 AM
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I did the math on both of these cars. There really aren't enough usable parts to justify buying the cars for parts, and IMO restoring them creates an issue since they have an insurance payout assigned to them.
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