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Old January 30th, 2012, 06:47 PM
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Holiday ?

I've been asked if my car is a Holiday Coupe , I see the title after a lot of the cars here . I know all sorts of useless things . And have searched for it , but don't seem to be able to find WHAT Holiday means , or what makes a Holiday coupe or sedan ?
Can someone enlighten me please ?
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Old January 30th, 2012, 06:52 PM
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If that's your car in the pic it's a Holiday coupe because it doesn't have a pillar between the front and back glass. What's the cars VIN? It will help prove whether the car is a holiday coupe.
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Old January 30th, 2012, 07:17 PM
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vin is 336878E154766
I know difference between coupe and sedan , and I know its a S .
I just don't know were the word Holiday fits in .
Does it mean vinyl top , or a trim level ?
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Old January 30th, 2012, 07:19 PM
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That is interesting to know! I also have wondered this before.

What do you need to watch for in the VIN?

Is it any Hardtop, pillar-less, car?
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Old January 30th, 2012, 07:31 PM
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Don't know this websites accuracy, since I have never heard of it before, but it states the following:

Holiday: When used in reference to an Oldsmobile model name, typically means a pillarless roof design. In other words, the lack of a B pillar to support the roof giving a smoother sleeker design. According to GMNext's Wiki, Buick and Oldsmobile introduced the 4 door "pillarless" hardtop models for the 1955 model year.
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Old January 30th, 2012, 07:41 PM
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What that says.

Holiday is the Olds word for "hardtop."

GM VINs show whether hardtop or pillar, 2d, 4d, conv., or wagon, and trim level (F-85, Cutlass, Supreme, Delmont / Delta / Royale, etc.).

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Then people adding Holiday on a sedan , or car with a b pillar and window frame on the door, are wrong ?
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Old January 30th, 2012, 07:53 PM
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1968Division:OldsmobileSeries:Cutlass S (V8)Body:2dr Holiday HardtopPlant:Linden, New JerseySerial Number:154766
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Old January 30th, 2012, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank3
Then people adding Holiday on a sedan , or car with a b pillar and window frame on the door, are wrong ?
Right.
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Old January 30th, 2012, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank3
Then people adding Holiday on a sedan , or car with a b pillar and window frame on the door, are wrong ?
Olds did make a 4 door hardtop sedan - in the Cutlass Supreme line. The lower trim levels were all pillared sedans IIRC. So it would be proper for a 68-72 4 door Cutlass to be called a sedan. But then you had to look at whether it had pillars between the A pillar and Sail panel.

2 door cars with B pillars are called Post coupes. Same logic as above

Starting in 73, Olds changed their branding process with sedans. None of the 4 door sedans had full door post construction - but Olds came up with the term : Colonnade Hardtop. This was creative to say the least. But it reflected that there was a pillared support between the front and rear doors.

For some reason they also called the new line of 2 doors 'colonade' hardtops. FWIW this was not limited to Olds - it also was branded onto Buick, Pontiac and Chevrolet.

From the same dictionary:
Colonnade: When used in an Oldsmobile model name, describes a car body that has frameless door glass/window yet kept a center pillar like a 4 door would. Typically the colonnade term was used only on 2 door body cars, but GM also used it on 4 doors, which some believed to be ad agency gibberish.
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Old January 30th, 2012, 08:26 PM
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Well, there were Holiday Coupes (2-door hardtop), Holiday Sedans (4-door hardtop), and Fiesta Holidays (4-door hardtop station wagons).

Then there were late-70s Holiday 88s which were actually 2-door post coupes with buckets/console, and 80s Ciera Holiday Coupes which were again 2-door post cars with fancy interior trim and a padded vinyl roof.

But generally speaking Holiday is Olds-speak for a hardtop (no B pillar) body style, 1949-1976.
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Old January 31st, 2012, 04:50 AM
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I also heard some nutjob on CO named his daughter Holiday...oh wait a minute..
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Old January 31st, 2012, 05:57 AM
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Whew....

I was gonna say don't forget us 78-80 Holiday 88s. I assumed that the Holiday name for these animals meant that it was a "dress up" package for the 78-80... Kinda like Olds was trying to recapture a little of it's past as it moved forward into the future...
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Old January 31st, 2012, 07:01 AM
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Here are examples of post non post cars
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Old January 31st, 2012, 08:02 AM
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So Teepo and Allan R's car would be considered "Holiday" coupes??
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Old January 31st, 2012, 09:31 AM
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'Holiday' ... 'Little Limo'
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Old January 31st, 2012, 10:04 AM
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The red '70 is a post coupe.
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Old January 31st, 2012, 01:25 PM
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For as little love as four-doors get, that blue 70 Supreme Holiday Sedan is a looker. Picture it with a cutout bumper, maybe lowered just a tad with suspension upgrades, and you have progenitor of some of these modern "sport sedans".
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Old January 31st, 2012, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cutlassgal
So Teepo and Allan R's car would be considered "Holiday" coupes??
Yep, although in the sales brochures they are listed as 2 door hardtop coupes. The VIN provides the body style for what version of F, G or J the car was.
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Old January 31st, 2012, 03:30 PM
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Don't know much about the Holiday's history, but my cars a 77' Delta 88 pace car, with silver/black paint treatment. In 78' Olds came out with a Holiday 88 version, with dark silver where my car is black. Kinda the same paint treatment as the Corvette anniversary edition of that year.
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Old January 31st, 2012, 07:17 PM
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That was one of the two-tone combinations that were making a comeback in the late 70s. Holiday 88s could be had in any of the colors for their production year. See fdwheelman's white one above.
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