Help, anyone know this car or this guy ??
#1
Help, anyone know this car or this guy ??
It was on ebay , and looks ok , 3j67h2m216204 I am getting it inspected ...Thanks
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...SA:MOTORS:1123
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...SA:MOTORS:1123
Last edited by davepnola; October 12th, 2009 at 06:31 PM.
#5
In 1972...The 442 trim package was available on the Cutlass (350 2bbl), Cutlass S (350 2 bbl), and Cutlass Supreme (convertible only, 350 4 bbl). The Cutlass and Cutlass S could be ordered with the L34 engine (350 4bbl), and all of them could be ordered with the L75 engine (455 4bbl).
care of the folks @442.com
care of the folks @442.com
#8
Maybe it'a a Cutlass Supreme 350 with the W29 442 appearance package and W25 OAI hood options going by the Cutlass Supreme on the glove box door?
How would you determine the authenticity of any of it without a paper trail?
How would you determine the authenticity of any of it without a paper trail?
#9
I think '72 "Cutlass Supreme" Glove box emblem is correct for 442 convertible. 350 is common in '72 442's. Don't think it came w/ that hood & stripes, though I think it could have as noted above.
Only way to tell "correctness" is build sheet or broadcast sheet. On the one I'm restoring right now (Lansing car), broadcast sheet was hog ringed to the passenger seatback frame underneath the plastic back panel.
I do know that if the car is solid & in good mechanical condition, correct or not, buyer got a sweet deal on a sharp looking car.
Only way to tell "correctness" is build sheet or broadcast sheet. On the one I'm restoring right now (Lansing car), broadcast sheet was hog ringed to the passenger seatback frame underneath the plastic back panel.
I do know that if the car is solid & in good mechanical condition, correct or not, buyer got a sweet deal on a sharp looking car.
Last edited by bccan; October 12th, 2009 at 11:29 AM.
#10
A 1972 442 with a 350 (180hp?) I think it's safe to say that 442's as we know them pretty much died in 72. Also known as a sheep in wolves clothing.
But still a great looking car.
But still a great looking car.
Last edited by Nilsson; October 12th, 2009 at 11:35 AM. Reason: spelling
#11
My sister had a 72 442 with a 350 4bbl it was on the weak side, but did say 442 on the glove box. I'll be honest its a good looking car and looks like you got it for good price. Go out have fun with it show it off.
#13
here is the vin 3j67h2m216204 i ran the decoder : came up 2 barrell carb , so does that mean it is not a 442 correct ?? Also he changed trunk pan , rear quarters etc..... and just painted the car , I am really getting worried now any advice would be appreciated .. Thanks
#14
according to the Oldsmobile 442 & W-Machines Restoration Guide page 146, dual exhaust standard, it could have had the bumper cutouts or not, it should have front and rear sway bars with boxed lower rear control arms, number 7 cast cylinder heads.
and from the VIN it is a Supreme (like Bluevista said) with a 2 bbl but it could have been a 442. The only way to be certain is some kind of paper trail. Heck for that matter, I have a 442.
and from the VIN it is a Supreme (like Bluevista said) with a 2 bbl but it could have been a 442. The only way to be certain is some kind of paper trail. Heck for that matter, I have a 442.
Last edited by t bell; October 12th, 2009 at 06:51 PM.
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here is the vin 3j67h2m216204 i ran the decoder : came up 2 barrell carb , so does that mean it is not a 442 correct ?? Also he changed trunk pan , rear quarters etc..... and just painted the car , I am really getting worried now any advice would be appreciated .. Thanks
In 72 the 442 was an option again because of insurance rates (mostly). HP after 1970 was rated as net not gross, so comparing pre 71 gross HP ratings to post 70 net ratings is comparing apples to oranges.
Checking it out is good, but the only way to tell if a 72 is a W29 car is to find the build sheet. If the 72 442 has a X in the serial number then it's a 442 W30. No "X", then you'll have to see the build sheet to know for sure.
#16
The 1972 W30 was still a *very* potent monster. Hardly a sheep. Your death announcement is a bit premature.
#20
It was on ebay , and looks ok , 3j67h2m216204 I am getting it inspected ...Thanks
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...SA:MOTORS:1123
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...SA:MOTORS:1123
That's a STEAAAAAL IMO.
I think you got lucky getting it that cheap.
I've wanted a vert 442 for AGES now.
#21
with a 350 not the optional w30 which were rare with only 639 being produced.
Last edited by Nilsson; October 13th, 2009 at 04:13 AM. Reason: spelling
#22
I agree if the car is as solid as it looks good you made out like a bandit no matter if it is a 442 or not.
Nice car enjoy it, I certainly would and have no buyers remorse at that price. That is the kind of deal I would like to find for a vert.
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