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I was thinking about some of the things that were proposed in this thread as I was driving around today (in my Jeep Wrangler, 4WD, 4.0 engine, manual transmission, by the way). I saw a couple of police vehicles and began wondering what would be needed for them. Obviously, a long charge time would not work, nor would switching vehicles as that would require too much overhead / idle vehicles (at taxpayer expense). Seems the best thing would be an easily replaceable battery pack so the cruiser could pull in, swap batteries, and get back on patrol quickly. That would be the closest thing to refilling a gasoline tank in a few minutes at a filling station. It would also fit the needs of the general public for a quick "refuel" stop.
I suppose that would require standardization of batteries over all manufacturers, and while possible to do, it would likely be a long time before it happened.
Last edited by Fun71; February 1st, 2021 at 03:26 PM.
Norm,
My company has implantable neural stimulators with rechargeable batteries that use the transmission principle you mentioned, and it is inefficient. Probably because we have to ensure we don't cook the user while recharging his battery.
I read up about Emrod and see that they claim around 30% losses for their system, which is actually a lot better than I thought they would be. Not as good as transmission lines at 10% or less, but not shabby.
Last edited by Fun71; February 1st, 2021 at 03:43 PM.
Precisely. Initiative or commentary is not welcomed even when they ask for it. When they ask for it, they want to hear their opinion out of your mouth. I killed my career before I learned this.
Today, my supervisor asked me when I would have a bid specification by. I asked him back, when would you like it? He told me, and I agreed.
Looking up what you say about Tesla repair. So far Tesla does have internal and outside repair shops. https://www.tesla.com/support/body-shop-support.. True some are waiting way too long to get their cars repaired. I need some more time to contact Elon Musk on social media. To ask about this problem. He is know to reply.
Contrary to what some on here think. I do work from my home office. And in the middle of designing a large project that eating up my time, right now.. GrayGhost you can PM with your details, if you like. I always fight city hall. And the to quote my Dad.
The wheel that squeaks the loudest, Is the one that gets the grease. And mine -The fire sprinkler design business has been very, very good to me!
So even when you have folks with the vehicles that can't be fixed you double down.
good night.
For some reason you left out {GrayGhost you can PM with your details, if you like. I always fight city hall} to contact Elon. No matter if we disagreed before. People hear are mostly trying to help! If my Tesla was taking too much time to fix. I be calling everybody. Newspapers, TV, FB, Government. They would fix it ASAP just to shut me up!
For some reason you left out {GrayGhost you can PM with your details, if you like. I always fight city hall} to contact Elon. No matter if we disagreed before. People hear are mostly trying to help! If my Tesla was taking too much time to fix. I be calling everybody. Newspapers, TV, FB, Government. They would fix it ASAP just to shut me up!
People that have pending cases, don't post information if they are smart. It never ends well when a judge finds out you have done so on, forums, social media and such.
I will respect my family members wishes that are going through this. To not post information that might lead back to them. not on here, and not in a pm to someone I don't know. That is a fan boi
AGAIN good night.
Everything you said about working at a dealership is why I left Ford and the woes of a flat rate mechanic back in 2008 (after a 26 year career). I can only imagine what it’s like now. I went into commercial over the road fleet maintenance and have never been happier. I don’t have to deal with the weird dealership/corporate policies about what gets replaced and what doesn't. I don’t have overpromising service advisors breathing down my neck and i know how much i’m going to make every week. The only thing I miss is seeing and working with the new technology when it is first released.
The most inexpensive and practical way for them to deal with legal matters would be to just hire an assassin or exterminator, depending on who or what you are
The most inexpensive and practical way for them to deal with legal matters would be to just hire an assassin or exterminator, depending on who or what you are
Would not be the first or last time. Someone tried that for different reasons.
The top three layers of GM Management need to be well and truly fired for incompetence. No "parachutes", I mean escorted out to the street by armed security and told to bugger off. Prosecuted for intentional mismanagement would be nice.
I want to see Mary "Dirtball" Barra eating out of a dumpster.
GM management is already "clarifiying" that "All EV" doesn't really mean "ALL EV". Trucks aren't included.
The top three layers of GM Management need to be well and truly fired for incompetence. No "parachutes", I mean escorted out to the street by armed security and told to bugger off. Prosecuted for intentional mismanagement would be nice.
I want to see Mary "Dirtball" Barra eating out of a dumpster.
GM management is already "clarifiying" that "All EV" doesn't really mean "ALL EV". Trucks aren't included.
Are delivery vehicles classed as trucks (Amazon, Fed Ex), or are they passenger vehicles?
The top three layers of GM Management need to be well and truly fired for incompetence. No "parachutes", I mean escorted out to the street by armed security and told to bugger off...
Not so fast. Why immediately bugging off? Once on the street, they need to be publically humiliated, Medieval style. I'd suggest stripping them naked and then giving them the Tar & Feather treatment. Thereafter, arm them with baseball bats and shields. Then pit each one against the other, Gladiator style. The one able to kick the most *** gets to bugger off first
Originally Posted by Schurkey
...I want to see Mary "Dirtball" Barra eating out of a dumpster...
Yeah, maybe from a dumpster owned by a peep show joint or a San Francisco glory hole
Kickin' cans down the road. Evolving EV or whatever they come up with is pie in the sky. This week's hot topic. It's trending that way now, but things could change in an instant with a war or with another election. Who knows? 2035 is just a place holder, IMO.
But to me, an EV is a waste of time. I could GAF less about them. I don't care about efficiency or saving a f*cking planet that's out to kill me. I got more important **** to worry about.
Reminds me of that Geico commercial about buying a home and turning into your parents, where the guy says "You got up early...nobody cares." I'll borrow that and say "You got an EV...nobody cares."
If they keep pushing EVs, they had better come up with a realistic way to collect road use tax, here in ILL they lowered the plate fee for an EV to under $20 and then figured out they were not getting use tax, so they raised it to around $280
May put up small wind generator for home and some solar. God knows it always windy and a lot of sun in south Texas.
My only dog in this fight is that most communities, including my semi-rural, do not allow wind turbines/generators in back yards, and many do not allow solar panels on roofs. Even though there is LOTS of wind and sun in central Colorado .
My only dog in this fight is that most communities, including my semi-rural, do not allow wind turbines/generators in back yards, and many do not allow solar panels on roofs. Even though there is LOTS of wind and sun in central Colorado .
Sometimes you have to fight city hall. To change things. I could understand not allowing wind generators for home. But not sure about solar, what is the reason?
Lots of opinions on the topic. The reality is EV's will dominate the vehicle landscape and ICE will become a thing of the past. Only unknown is when and how soon this will happen here in the USA. Big oil $$$ doesn't want it to happen but writing is on the wall.
From what I read, I am pretty confident that ICE's will no longer be sold by 2035-2040 here in the USA. In many parts of Europe, ICE will be illegal and no longer sold by 2030. Which is only 9 years away.
ICE will be like telephone booths, typewriters, phone books, VHS tapes, etc.
Nah, that ICE's gone in 10 years is just hype pushed by the press, the politicians, and other people who do not actually do anything.
The reason it's hype is nicely provided by you, so thanks. Telephone booths, typewriters, phone books, and vhs tapes are not illegal, rather, they are discontinued because they were replaced by a better technology. Currently (pun kind of intended), there is no "100% better in all ways" internal combustion engine replacement for all applications. Once there is, the engine can go, no laws needed.
Plus, it's a red herring to ban engines in the West when China and Mexico are the worst polluters.
Nah, that ICE's gone in 10 years is just hype pushed by the press, the politicians, and other people who do not actually do anything.
The reason it's hype is nicely provided by you, so thanks. Telephone booths, typewriters, phone books, and vhs tapes are not illegal, rather, they are discontinued because they were replaced by a better technology. Currently (pun kind of intended), there is no "100% better in all ways" internal combustion engine replacement for all applications. Once there is, the engine can go, no laws needed.
Plus, it's a red herring to ban engines in the West when China and Mexico are the worst polluters.
Ban new cars and trucks with engines. I do not think the ban will include older existing cars and trucks. I would be the first to fight that!
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Until it’s as easy to recharge an electric car as it is to refuel a vehicle with a ICE, I just don’t see electric cars cars replacing fossil fuel propulsion.
Imagine how long a family vacation road trip will take if every300-400 miles you have to stop for a several hour long recharge.
Maybe if every electric vehicle manufacturer would get together and make interchangeable power packs, you could have battery centers that swap batteries instead recharging the same one. Just an idea, one that I’m sure much smarter people than me have thought of.
Remember when E85 first became available, and how much cheaper it was than regular gas? Sure didn’t take long for taxes and other fees to offset the cost saving. There is no way the same thing won’t eventually happen to electric cars.
I have no desire to incur the wrath of the Political Police, but there is no way our city, state and federal government will miss out on the revenue from gasoline tax. That income will have to come from somewhere else. Having said that, it’s a safe bet the quality of our roads still won’t benefit from the sales tax that is supposed to pay for road maintenance.
While I appreciate the classic muscle cars. I must admit after a car show, the smell & pollution after the vehicles leave gives me a headache. Not to mention with carburetors, the constant off gassing of fuel evaporating is just wasting fuel and polluting the air. I am all for progress and cleaner air. Many wars have been fought and millions of people have died for oil.
Maybe someone will put an EV motor into a 1970 Olds 442?
Interesting read about EV's. They even have a company that is doing EV motor conversions for older muscle cars. Fastest run was 9.80's at 141mph with an electric motor.
Interesting read about EV's. They even have a company that is doing EV motor conversions for older muscle cars. Fastest run was 9.80's at 141mph with an electric motor.
After hundreds of hours of work. Cut, smashed and oily fingers. Crawling every inch of my car, inside and out. Never get back the money and time I put into her. I could not do that to my car. Put wood alcohol into it first, if no gas is around.
Ran my old 1985 F350 dually with wood alcohol for 25 miles. When I run out of gas in the middle of nowhere, wood alcohol was the only thing I had. Popping and a few backfires, but got me to a gas station.
I'm impressed by the power and speed of the electric motor cars. To get beat by an electric motor car in a gas guzzling 455 engine Olds is a humbling experience...
First they came for the new gasoline powered vehicles....then they came for the gasoline powered classic vehicles. There is already a move to stop the building of new gasoline stations, then it will be the closing of current gasoline stations, and finally the end of all gasoline. Unfortunately, if things keep moving in this direction, gasoline fueled classic vehicles will all be oversize paper weights.
10+ years from now. EV's will dominate the new car landscape and ICE will be phasing out. I can see gas being $15+ a gallon by then (its already at $5 gallon in some places). Driving and maintaining an old gas guzzling classic car will be a luxury and driving it will be expensive.
EVs are the future. Like it or not. That's the reality.
It would not surprise me to see ICE parts, especially for Olds and other out of business car companies, become rare and expensive. It's already expensive to rebuild a 455 Olds, years from now, it will be even more expensive. That's the nature of the beast...
Last edited by pettrix; March 4th, 2021 at 08:34 AM.
As said above, if there's no gasoline then alcohol will work. Rejet the carb, set up a still in the back yard, and produce your own fuel. It's not rocket science.
As said above, if there's no gasoline then alcohol will work. Rejet the carb, set up a still in the back yard, and produce your own fuel. It's not rocket science.
Actually, it is. The German V2, the Bell X1, the Redstone missile, and even the early flights of the X15 used alcohol as the fuel.
As said above, if there's no gasoline then alcohol will work. Rejet the carb, set up a still in the back yard, and produce your own fuel. It's not rocket science.
I got the pun, "rocket science"
Alcohol based fuel has it's own set of problems. It's very corrosive, it collects moisture, it goes bad fast (not good for cars that don't get driven every week). It tends to wash down the cylinders. It will attack the rubber & plastic compounds and the zinc and aluminum alloys used in carburetors & older fuel systems. Ethanol/alcohol is very hygroscopic, it's like a water sponge.
Once it gets below 50F outside, good luck starting your engine. I know people who run ethanol and cold temp starts on ethanol are difficult. While most won't drive their cars when it's close to freezing, starting an engine with E85 when it's 40F outside would be one brutal cold start up.
Last edited by pettrix; March 4th, 2021 at 08:48 AM.
The above is the FUTURE of cars. If you want to be ahead of the curve and make millions of dollars. Learn the engineering on how to install electric motors into older vehicles.
several years back polestar said most or all electric by 2022!!!
the 2022 hybrid f150 is 420+ hp an 500trqe at +26mpg. I think thats awesome and probably a better route than all ev or all ice.
I look fwd to real e motorcycles, right now a decent e bike is 15k w 120-150 mile range. A toy imo.
my kid has an e minibike its fun unplug ride for 25minutes, recharge for 6 hrs. When i was a kid my minicycles would go out for 4-8 hrs then refill w gas in 30seconds!
Last edited by RetroRanger; March 4th, 2021 at 09:02 AM.
February 1st, 2021, 03:24 PM
Just saying
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