Ok to interject here. I believe that if you are vulnerable wearing a mask and be safe is probably a good thing. Otherwise like others have said, where has the common flu went? This is serious but basically a shitty version of the flu. Wash your hands be careful and if not feeling well stay away. We may have lost +500k but I really don't believe it's all attributed to covid19. I truly believe we as people should know how to get through this without government intervention.

 

with so many people WFH or reduced hours the daily commute is so much nicer uncrowded roadways and higher travel speeds .....I think more people should WFH

 

"I truly believe we as people should know how to get through this without government intervention."

Most people do know how to get through this without government intervention but many don't give a damn and won't do it without being forced to.

 

Though I had the virus in December/January, on a doctor's recommendation, I took part 1 of the Pfizer vaccine on 6 March. On the morning of 7 March I experienced the possible side effects shown on the Pfizer information sheets: injection site soreness, tiredness, headache, chills, and fever. Since then all has diminished except for the low grade fever (99.7F). I'll return for part 2 on 27 March.

 

Ohio resident, became eligible on Th Mar 4. On Fr Mar 5, was able to schedule an appointment for Sa Mar 6, for the Johnson & Johnson one-shot. In and out in 20 minutes. Some chills that evening, and minor arm soreness for a day. Have seen enough death and misery to take the risk of the vaccine.

 

We do not have to live with Covid. Just like today, in the past, we had to vaccinate our way out the effects of a pandemic due to a highly communicable disease. We eradicated Smallpox worldwide only through vaccinations. They were mandatory. For the Polio virus, we eradicated that virus domestically, again through mandatory vaccinations. Polio still occurs in third world countries where there are no mandatory vaccinations.

 

Since I and my girlfriend see my father two to three times a week we both got poked almost a week ago. Very straight forward and easy at Tufts Medical Center in Boston. We drove in early morning and left 40 minutes later. They are giving them to anyone who shows up. I was going to wait until the age limit was lifted but then I figured it was too much of a gamble hoping I don't get infected when I go to my father's house so often. He already had to quarantine a couple months ago after the neighbor was infected. My father got his a few weeks ago, I got the single shot. The person injecting me was very good, I really didn't feel a thing, and she was a cutie to boot!

I take precautions but I don't live like a hermit either.

 

As with so many other things about this virus, this makes no since. Why are we wearing masks if you can't get it from a surface. Everyone knows the mask does not stop the virus and never claimed to. It is to stop the "water droplet" that has the virus more concentrated in it. Why do they push to keep your hands washed if you are not getting it from a surface or putting it on a surface with your hands.

My wife is dead set that the kids will not be getting the shot and she won't either. I don't care if I get it or not but I will not get it just to support her feelings on it.

 

I don't know where you get your information from, but you are certainly wrong on that one. Why would the CDC (and every thinking individual) recommend masks if they didn't prevent communication of the virus?????? The virus has been PROVEN to be communicated from person to person via the small droplets you refer to. A bunch of you need to start getting your info from reputable SCIENCE BASED SOURCES, rather than faux news or Qanon........... Whether you get vaccinated or not is your choice, but that choice should also revolve around your ability to infect others or protect others, including in your family.

 

Listen to Dr. Fauci

 

I guess you didn't understand, The virus is to small for masks. It is the droplets they are trying to gather with the masks. This is not an airborne virus so how is it not spread from surfaces either? People are getting it somehow and most of the people getting it wear masks. I am sure it is a coincidence but I know of roughly 30 people that flat refuse to wear a mask and not one of them have gotten the virus. We don't wear them at work and I was working directly with someone that had it and never got it. We have another guy that got it at another location 3 hours from home. The two of them rode back together for 3 hours with no masks and the other person never got it. We do wash out hands often and clean door handles many times a day.

You also state you don't know where I get my information and then say it is from Fox and Qanon?

 

There has been a significant decrease in the number of covid cases. I don't believe the vaccine has been out long enough and enough people vaccinated to cause the decrease. So that leaves masks and social distancing. As far as catching it off surfaces, I had friends tell me yesterday of a friend of some of their family members that got covid. He had been on a trip with a group and nobody else had covid. They stopped for gas and he gassed up both vehicles and felt that was where he go it. A gas pump handle has to be one of the nastiest things we are exposed to. First thing I do after I gas up is get in the Expedition and hit the hand sanitizer. I have had both shots and still use a face mask. But then that is just me.

 

lol, My wife and I are the same way. I have a spry bottle with denatured alcohol and spray the pump handle before I touch it and then the hand sanitizer after.

 

I don't think one can make this conclusion. We've been masking and social distancing for a year now. If mask wearing and social distancing were so effective, then why did the number of cases go UP over the winter? The reason case counts are decreasing is because we're getting into the later stages of winter and spring. Flu cases are ALWAYS highest in the winter months and decrease starting in late winter and spring. That's why we get flu shots in the fall for the coming winter, not in the spring for the coming summer.

I think that, overall, everything humanity has done to try to contain the virus has been far less effective than everyone thinks it has. Some of the most heavily locked-down states with all kinds of mandates have also seen some of the worst case rates. See, for example, California. We have 50 states in this country, and the degree to which they were locked down, mandated mask wearing, and all the rest varied completely from one end of the spectrum to the other. But in the end, things aren't much different from state to state. Case counts were high over the winter, and they're now decreasing. Just like what happened in the later winter, spring, and summer of 2020. And just like what happens EVERY year with the seasonal flu.

Those hoping that these vaccines for COVID will be like the vaccines for polio and smallpox are expressing wishful thinking, in my opinion. I HOPE that these people are correct and that these vaccines are as long-lasting as those, but I'm more inclined to believe that these vaccines will not impart lifetime immunity but rather COVID will just be a part of the concoction of dead flu viruses we get injected with as the seasonal "flu shot" every autumn.


Get ready for Covid-19 vaccine booster shots at your next physical, experts warn

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...sical-n1257317

 

I can make that conclusion and that is all it is, a conclusion. You may be correct in your conclusion and you make an interesting point about it being included in the flu shot every year.

 

The wife and I both have received the Moderna vaccine so we are safe.
But my son who is 39, caught the virus and has, up to a point, only partially recovered. He used to go on bicycle rides up to 50 miles or so no problem, now struggles to go 5 miles. Wheezes all the time, been two months now since he caught the virus, at least the taste and sense of smell came back......Dr. warned him about catching it again, so he is very cautious.
Our local Olds club just recently lost a member from the virus, he was in a coma on & off for a month before losing the battle, terrible.....
There is a lot more I want say, but to stay civil I'll hold back....lost to many friends to this virus already, please don't take this lightly
....

 

The predominant reason for this is the angle of the sun. Our bodies manufacture Vitamin D from sunlight. So, our vitamin D levels fall when the sun's angle falls. Our immune system loses some of its punch because of that.

Maintaining a healthy blood level of Vitamin D (60 to 80 ng/ml) keeps our immune systems robust and lessens severity of seasonal illnesses.

 

You must get you info from faux and qanon, as you are so completely misinformed. Covid 19 IS AN AIRBORNE VIRUS. :If you don't believe the science - LOOK IT UP!! (Does none of this info show up in the mainstream news in Indiana, it did when we lived there?) Most of the people getting it ARE NOT WEARING MASKS! Just because you don't wear a mask once and don't get it means NOTHING!!

 

You must get you info from faux and qanon, as you are so completely misinformed. Covid 19 IS AN AIRBORNE VIRUS. :If you don't believe the science - LOOK IT UP!! Does none of this info show up in the mainstream news in Indiana? (it did when we lived there) Most of the people getting it ARE NOT WEARING MASKS! Just because you don't wear a mask once and don't get it means NOTHING except someone got lucky!! The CDC has told us that cloth masks, like a bandana, do not do nearly as good a job of stopping transmission as a medical style mask. Masks work!

 

Lighten up, Francis. Instead of insulting folks, how about giving them some information to read?

Like this:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html

COVID-19 spreads less commonly through contact with contaminated surfaces

• Respiratory droplets can also land on surfaces and objects. It is possible that a person could get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or eyes.
• Spread from touching surfaces is not thought to be a common way that COVID-19 spreads

See, that wasn't so hard, now was it?

 

Got shot, no issues Felt better than the last time I got shot....Tedd

 

This one was in the arm. Did you get shot in the behind the last time Tedd?