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Old October 30th, 2021 | 06:31 AM
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Determining fair price for W31 350 Rocket

Looking for assistance in determining fair selling price of my 350 Rocket engine and all parts - starter, alternator, everything attached to block. Going to make swap to big block. Have 350 currently in car and running nicely. 38k original miles.


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Old October 30th, 2021 | 06:43 AM
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Is it a factory W31? The balancer and carb would probably be the most valuable parts.
Old October 30th, 2021 | 06:59 AM
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supposed to be factory w31, but I can't 100% guarantee that.....just purchased the car in Jan - how would I confirm that for the buyer?
Old October 30th, 2021 | 08:02 AM
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$500
where is it?
Old October 30th, 2021 | 08:04 AM
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Are you reselling this car? I'm sure the experts will chime in on identifying the motor to the car. The stamped date code below the driver's cylinder head front, on the flat pad, is a start. Also check the number on the carb. Is it an aluminum intake?
Old October 30th, 2021 | 08:11 AM
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Old October 30th, 2021 | 08:12 AM
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Not reselling car. just no need for me to keep engine and tranny. I'll check the stamped date and carb and intake...Thanks
Old October 30th, 2021 | 09:22 AM
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OK, I'll say it. If this is a REAL W31 car with the original engine and trans, selling that drivetrain and swapping the engine is a big mistake. That probably cuts the value of the car by a least 50%.
Old October 30th, 2021 | 09:28 AM
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Only 38,000 miles!!!! I'll take 2!
Old October 30th, 2021 | 09:36 AM
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Stamp....looks aluminum
Old October 30th, 2021 | 09:38 AM
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Appreciate all your input
Old October 30th, 2021 | 09:44 AM
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Those photos aren't particularly useful. The intake is reproduced and bolts on to any small block Olds. The oil fill cap is a newer one from the 1980s.
A photo of the harmonic balancer is important. These were unique to the W31 motors. The heads should be #6. The VIN derivative will tell you the year of the block and whether or not it matches the VIN.

This is a W31 balancer.




This is a normal 350 balancer





This is where you'll find the VIN derivative.




Old October 30th, 2021 | 10:02 AM
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Thanks. I'll get pics.....
Old October 30th, 2021 | 10:04 AM
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Why not do a 425 ci stroker of the original 350 motor? As said, a big killer of value, stroking the original, numbers matching motor will be the best of both worlds.
Old October 30th, 2021 | 02:23 PM
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It's about 99% chance it's a normal 350.
Old October 30th, 2021 | 03:10 PM
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OK! And the number is 30M181741. Who has the Book of Knowledge?

Old October 30th, 2021 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sschevellecutlass_Bob


OK! And the number is 30M181741. Who has the Book of Knowledge?
It's a 1970 Lansing-built 350. Does that VIN derivative match the VIN?
Old October 30th, 2021 | 03:20 PM
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Yes. VIN is 336870M181741
Old October 30th, 2021 | 05:34 PM
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i agree with joe,if it has the w-31 balancer and carb do not sell it.
Old October 30th, 2021 | 05:47 PM
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If the car checks out as a W-31, keep it whole. What kind of transmission is it? If it's an automatic, that might make it easier to verify.
Old October 30th, 2021 | 06:08 PM
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350

Car is automatic now - TH350. Posi rear 3.90 (3.91?)

I'll check carb tomorrow and try to take pics of harmonic balancer that is visible......

Thanks all!!
Old October 30th, 2021 | 06:10 PM
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Does the car have the OAI hood?
Old October 30th, 2021 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sschevellecutlass_Bob
Car is automatic now - TH350.
"Now"? Does that mean it's not the original transmission? Reason I ask is, if the transmission ID plate is coded "JO" and the VIN derivative matches, that's pretty much ironclad proof it's a W-31 car -- unless it's been monkeyed with.
Old October 30th, 2021 | 07:08 PM
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350

Car has original TH350 in it now. Has Ram air hood.
Old October 30th, 2021 | 07:11 PM
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So the next question is, what is the two letter trans code on that TH350, and does it also have a VIN derivative that matches the VIN?
Old October 30th, 2021 | 07:12 PM
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I will check the Tranny number tomorrow Joe. Number easy to see?

Thank you ALL for the help and education
Old October 30th, 2021 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sschevellecutlass_Bob


OK! And the number is 30M181741. Who has the Book of Knowledge?
That would be Joe for one. Just saying...

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Old October 30th, 2021 | 07:50 PM
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The TH350 VIN derivative is on a pad on the driver's side above the pan rail.





The trans code is on the accumulator cover. Unfortunately, this can be swapped pretty easily.



Old October 30th, 2021 | 08:12 PM
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As Joe indicated via referencing of the VIN derivative location(s). Take note of the location of the TH350 VIN derivative stamp from the image (above) by referencing other tell-tale features/locations on the transmission. You will be hard pressed to find the number w/ the transmission installed, but you CAN find the number. Just don't expect it to pop right out at you. It's located just above the lower rail housing of the transmission and set back from the edge of that rail about ~1". Suggestion: Use a small handheld flashlight and a small mirror to see over that edge. It's tough getting your head high enough to view the VIN derivative stamp.
Old October 30th, 2021 | 08:22 PM
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It's tough to capture a picture (mine is most likely out of focus), but it's achievable. Here's a closeup.




Old October 31st, 2021 | 10:36 AM
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Roger and thank you.
Old November 2nd, 2021 | 11:16 PM
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So, was this just a Halloween prank?
Old November 3rd, 2021 | 07:18 AM
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No prank. Still doing research - checked carb number, damper, intake, build plate, etc.... have to check the tranny still.

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Originally Posted by sschevellecutlass_Bob
No prank. Still doing research - checked carb number, damper, intake, build plate, etc.... have to check the tranny still.
Okay, well at this point the transmission is the key to confirming what you have.
Old November 16th, 2021 | 05:18 PM
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Anything ever happen here, Bob?
Old March 24th, 2022 | 08:19 AM
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Guess not. What a shame.
Old March 24th, 2022 | 12:05 PM
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no, but still going forward with engine/tranny change... will post info next time under car or when we pull it - May
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Originally Posted by sschevellecutlass_Bob
no, but still going forward with engine/tranny change... will post info next time under car or when we pull it - May
Okay, so you never bothered to check the transmission for the VIN derivative or the JO code, but you're going to go ahead and pry a possible factory W-31 apart to shove in a 455 or an LS or whatever it is, thereby significantly reducing the value of an important collector vehicle? That about right?

You're just messing with us, aren't you?
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