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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 02:11 PM
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chrome covers with pcv grommets in both??

I was told these were OEM

I had to buy them LoL

Any thoughts as to if the factory ever installed covers as these??

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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 02:46 PM
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are both of them notched. one with a longer notch than the other? if so they are 69 H/O covers and both covers have cutouts for tubes to the air cleaner base.... or they could be after market but they look oem
Old Jan 28, 2016 | 03:05 PM
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Hi Morgan

They are both uniform profile
No notches

They look factory OEM to me. Baffles look to be oldsmobile issue and the vent breather /pcv holes are in the center. They also feel sturdy / heavy compared to anything aftermarket I have seen.
Old Jan 28, 2016 | 03:11 PM
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They look like the same covers that are on my 67 W30 - But I don't know if the covers had been changed before I purchased the car...


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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 03:37 PM
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Is there a vent breather in either of your covers??? Those had larger diameter D shaped grommet on one side. That is the ones that i have seen and / or and am running on my cars.

pcv both sides is new to me

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They look like the same covers that are on my 67 W30 - But I don't know if the covers had been changed before I purchased the car...

Old Jan 28, 2016 | 03:41 PM
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i ran across Joe stating this in a tri carb thread

I remember when stock and super stock racers used two pcv valves with stiff wall hose to get more air.


maybe race stuff???
Old Jan 28, 2016 | 03:41 PM
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Not sure but I like running 2 PVC valves or 1 and the other into aircleaner base. In the end it still endups back in the engine.
Old Jan 28, 2016 | 03:45 PM
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When i purchased these i was planning to run on my 350 olds
I would rather not modify an olds fossil

but do not want to suck the gaskets out of the small block by having 2 pcv
Old Jan 28, 2016 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 11971four4two
Hi Morgan

They are both uniform profile
No notches

They look factory OEM to me. Baffles look to be oldsmobile issue and the vent breather /pcv holes are in the center. They also feel sturdy / heavy compared to anything aftermarket I have seen.

without the notches the they are not 69 covers....pretty neat covers
Old Jan 28, 2016 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pogo69
without the notches the they are not 69 covers....pretty neat covers

Do the 69 covers run pcv valves on both sides???

i have set of the chrome notch covers on one of the fleet
breather in drivers side
pcv sucker in the off hand
These are not the same as those
Old Jan 28, 2016 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 11971four4two
Do the 69 covers run pcv valves on both sides???

i have set of the chrome notch covers on one of the fleet
breather in drivers side
pcv sucker in the off hand
These are not the same as those
one pcv on the 69 H/O (intake manifold port) but both covers have breather tube holes
Old Jan 28, 2016 | 04:42 PM
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There have always been two equal size cutouts, one in each cover, one for PCV and the other for the air breather and/or tube... The grommets you use will determine what you plug into them...

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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 05:10 PM
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these are as found

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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 11971four4two
these are as found

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That should be for the PCV Valve only...
Old Jan 28, 2016 | 06:19 PM
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Chrome covers 397131 were available over the parts counter in the 1960s, and were stock on the 66-7 W30. Discontinued 1/73.

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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 06:30 PM
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I wonder what street value is on these???
my 72 cutlass will wear them with pride
Old Jan 28, 2016 | 06:50 PM
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On a car they would have PCV on one side and a breather on the other cover. In order to suck vapors out of the engine, air has to come in somewhere!
Old Jan 28, 2016 | 07:13 PM
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Those are not 67 W-30 valve covers. I do not know if they are 66s or not.
Old Jan 28, 2016 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Run to Rund
On a car they would have PCV on one side and a breather on the other cover. In order to suck vapors out of the engine, air has to come in somewhere!
EXACTLY

You would be better off using the '69 H/O scheme
one PCV valve to the nipple thru the intake
one FILTER/ breather in each RACover, leading to the air cleaner housing.
Old Jan 29, 2016 | 06:32 AM
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First, it appears these are (were) factory-built covers.

Second, the chrome is almost certainly not factory. It isn't hard to get valve covers plated. I've done it numerous times.

Third, since the grommets have to come out for plating, apparently someone put the wrong ones back in.

Fourth, NO Oldsmobile ever used more than one PCV valve, and more importantly, the 69 H/O (and 70 W-30 and 4spd cars) used NO PCV valves in the valve covers - the PCV went to the intake.

Fifth, even a 1967 BBO A-body got one notched valve cover on the driver's side to clear the brake booster.
Old Jan 29, 2016 | 10:17 AM
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As above, the LH cover 399585 for 67 W30 and 69 H/O was different from the right hand cover. RH for 69 H/O was 405378.
Old Jan 29, 2016 | 11:31 AM
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The 69 HO had the bigger AC box so the RH one is notched, correct?
Old Jan 29, 2016 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Koda
The 69 HO had the bigger AC box so the RH one is notched, correct?
Yes. 67 cars had the smaller HVAC box, but used the 11" booster seen on the 68-72 cars (64-66 cars only used a 9" booster), so it needed one notched valve cover on the driver's side. 1968-72 cars had both the bigger booster and the larger HVAC box, thus two notched covers. The numbers Joe posted above were for the factory chrome covers. Of course there were painted notched covers with different part numbers.
Old Jan 29, 2016 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
First, it appears these are (were) factory-built covers.

Second, the chrome is almost certainly not factory. It isn't hard to get valve covers plated. I've done it numerous times.

Third, since the grommets have to come out for plating, apparently someone put the wrong ones back in.

Fourth, NO Oldsmobile ever used more than one PCV valve, and more importantly, the 69 H/O (and 70 W-30 and 4spd cars) used NO PCV valves in the valve covers - the PCV went to the intake.

Fifth, even a 1967 BBO A-body got one notched valve cover on the driver's side to clear the brake booster.

Hey Joe

i really wondered WTF when i saw this set of covers
So i guess they technically are / were OEM just not factory issue in this state
I would rather run these than some repro ones or after k market ones

i will run a breather on one side when i put them on the car


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Old Jan 29, 2016 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Yes. 67 cars had the smaller HVAC box, but used the 11" booster seen on the 68-72 cars (64-66 cars only used a 9" booster), so it needed one notched valve cover on the driver's side. 1968-72 cars had both the bigger booster and the larger HVAC box, thus two notched covers. The numbers Joe posted above were for the factory chrome covers. Of course there were painted notched covers with different part numbers.
Hey, wait a minute. From the pictures I have seen online (auctions, etc) the notches face forward, not rearward.
Old Jan 29, 2016 | 04:33 PM
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covers with inden tread corners

seen that
clarence for the alternattor
and the air conditioner too


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Old Jan 30, 2016 | 10:33 AM
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Hey, wait a minute. From the pictures I have seen online (auctions, etc) the notches face forward, not rearward.
Usually seen on 68s with the stripes in the wrong place.
Old Jan 31, 2016 | 07:10 PM
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Oh the shame, oh the indignity.

So I was at grandma's, and needed my charger for my dead Tahoe (see my vortec engine thread.) I charged the battery in my 442 for a few hours while I did yardwork. I remembered Joe's comments on the notches, and while I DO have one notched valve cover on my 67....it faces forward on the right, under the AC compressor....and the decal is on the right place, on the wrong cover on the left side. Friggin previous owner. Oh, the humanity.
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Originally Posted by Koda
Oh the shame, oh the indignity.

So I was at grandma's, and needed my charger for my dead Tahoe (see my vortec engine thread.) I charged the battery in my 442 for a few hours while I did yardwork. I remembered Joe's comments on the notches, and while I DO have one notched valve cover on my 67....it faces forward on the right, under the AC compressor....and the decal is on the right place, on the wrong cover on the left side. Friggin previous owner. Oh, the humanity.
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