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Old Nov 28, 2018 | 12:24 PM
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broadcast sheet mistake?

I'm in the process of recovering the two front seats. Passenger side done and now tore apart the drivers side. I found the broadcast sheet attached to the back of the driver seat back. I'm decoding it but something strange came up. Maybe I'm not decoding correctly. Style says 34257. Isn't that for a hardtop? This is a convertible. Seats are correct, color correct, and black conv top. My dad bought this in '72. I remember the first day he had it. The car has never been apart. I know for a fact this car is a '71 Cutlass supreme, conv, blue, black power top, and power window. No code or box for power window. Am I missing something? Thanks..



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Old Nov 28, 2018 | 12:30 PM
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Well- my 74 350 Hurst/Olds has W30 on its broadcast card. Humans handled these things, so human error gets in sometimes. Does everything else match what's on the broadcast?
Old Nov 28, 2018 | 12:37 PM
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now I got it to upload, see above
Old Nov 28, 2018 | 12:45 PM
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The body number would match the cowl tag body number if it was for your car.
Old Nov 28, 2018 | 12:46 PM
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Don't think a 72 card could by mistake end up in a 71 at the factory...
Old Nov 28, 2018 | 12:47 PM
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does the body number on the card - 267614 - match the body number on the cowl of your car?
Old Nov 28, 2018 | 12:53 PM
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what shows that the card is a '71 or '72 ???
Old Nov 28, 2018 | 01:59 PM
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I'll check the cowl tag when I get home. January '71 matches the build date sticker on the driver door (yes it's still there). This is interesting since my dad bought the car when it was only a year old and it has never left his ownership till I got it. It has never been modified or even taken apart for that matter. None of the interior has ever been touched until I started to recover the seats. Also, how would a hardtop style have the code for a convertible top!
jensenracinf77, 072 is the sequence number, not the year.
Old Nov 28, 2018 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dads71cutlass
I'll check the cowl tag when I get home. January '71 matches the build date sticker on the driver door (yes it's still there). This is interesting since my dad bought the car when it was only a year old and it has never left his ownership till I got it. It has never been modified or even taken apart for that matter. None of the interior has ever been touched until I started to recover the seats. Also, how would a hardtop style have the code for a convertible top!
jensenracinf77, 072 is the sequence number, not the year.
lol, I did know that and not sure what I was thinking... Will be interesting to see how many body numbers it is off. I have heard of one before that was in the wrong car from the factory and was only 20 or so body numbers off.
Old Nov 28, 2018 | 03:50 PM
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It was not uncommon for broadcast cards to get thrown into cars they didn't belong to. The biggest thing here is the body number. If it matches the card, then obviously it's a typo by Fisher Body Works. What plant was the car built at?
Old Nov 28, 2018 | 04:50 PM
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Also, how would a hardtop style have the code for a convertible top!
Hardtops had a code for the top color (vinyl or painted).
Old Nov 28, 2018 | 05:56 PM
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lansing fisher body had their own cushion room back then, made their own seat covers and put the seats together. that tag looks like it is just the ticket for the worker to put the right covers on the seat. that's why it was stapled,or hog ringed to the spring. in the bodyshop we had the same type of manifest for the options on the car,it rode thru the process of paint and trim then over to the olds plant
Old Nov 28, 2018 | 07:15 PM
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ok, cowl tag is
st71 34267LAN266099 BDY
tr 970 26 B PNT
01c

so from what I have read, Lansing built, 34267 = conv color 26 (Viking blue) B = black conv top, 970 = black bucket seat, 01C = ? power wimdows?
Old Nov 28, 2018 | 07:59 PM
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- 267614 -
- 266099 -
- 001515 - probably just a black bucket seat that was originally intended for a Cutlass Supreme hardtop 1,515 cars later than your dad's convertible


Old Nov 28, 2018 | 08:04 PM
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01C: 01 = January & C = 3rd week
Old Nov 28, 2018 | 08:10 PM
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It's worth noting these cards serve no official function after the car is built. So, they got stuck wherever, including the car behind or in front of them. One of my other old cars, being out of Kansas City Chevy plant, got the El Camino in front of it's build sheet.
Old Nov 29, 2018 | 06:21 AM
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Wow, that's interesting how the broadcast sheets could be so hit or miss. 01c actually correlates to the date on the broadcast sheet that says 01-19 (jan 19). It was Tuesday of the 3rd week. Hey...maybe the hardtop car has my broadcast sheet!!
Old Nov 29, 2018 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by hurst68olds
- 267614 -
- 266099 -
- 001515 - probably just a black bucket seat that was originally intended for a Cutlass Supreme hardtop 1,515 cars later than your dad's convertible
But remember, we're dealing with body numbers, not serial numbers. So it's not really 1,515 cars. Body numbers were per body style, not per model range. Hardtop 267614 must have come down the line either in front of or behind convertible 266099. Just coincidence that they both had the same colors. Seats were the same for both, so they just grabbed a set.
Old Nov 29, 2018 | 07:39 AM
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Sometimes weird stuff went on. When I bought my car it came with a QJet for a W30. Dates code was correct for my October build. Car was mostly original. Was it installed at the factory in error? No way to say for sure but could have been.
Old Nov 29, 2018 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldsfan
But remember, we're dealing with body numbers, not serial numbers. So it's not really 1,515 cars. Body numbers were per body style, not per model range. Hardtop 267614 must have come down the line either in front of or behind convertible 266099. Just coincidence that they both had the same colors. Seats were the same for both, so they just grabbed a set.
not true for 1971 - only one set of body sequence numbers for A-bodies

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Old Nov 29, 2018 | 11:23 AM
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just a quick story. i ordered a new 67 442, took 8 weeks to get delivered, i was at the olds dealership getting ready to cancel when transporter pulled up with 7 cars on it. my 442 was on it so was there another 442 on it, a blue one. was told by olds dealer he had no other 442's coming. as i walked around the truck to see my car, i noticed that one side of the blue 442 had cutlass supreme on one side and 442 emblems on other. mentioned it to sales manager and his reaction to it was "it happens all the time" he said you should see the way some of them come in. something that sticks in your head forever. i too found a tag in back of front passenger bucket that matched nothing on my car except body type. don;t let that drive you nuts, you know it's not right that's all that matters
Old Nov 29, 2018 | 11:54 AM
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don;t let that drive you nuts, you know it's not right that's all that matters
Doesn't bother me. I know what the car is. I just found it intriguing. Interesting how many little things like this happened back then and may even happen now.
In the late '90s I had a company vehicle that was a new Jeep Cherokee. Had a 4x4 badge on the left 1/4, none on the right 1/4, and it was only a 2 wheel drive. It happens!
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