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Old Jun 11, 2017 | 02:17 AM
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Question BOP manual bellhousing question

Can anyone tell me if the 60`s BOP housings that had the Ford 3 speeds bolted to them, have the same tranny bolt pattern as a Muncie? I had one of these years ago and I just don`t remember. I have a project in mind in of putting a W31 engine in a certain Ford! I hope. The car I have now, has the Ford 3 speed in it and I was just going to leave that as is. Thanks for any info
Old Jun 11, 2017 | 04:54 AM
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The Ford 3 speed used its inner set of 4 mounting holes with 7/16" x 14 bolts. The bell housing had two patterns on it, the Ford pattern, and the usual Muncie pattern with 1/2" x 13 threaded holes.
Old Jun 11, 2017 | 06:10 AM
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The, ah, "Dearborn" trans () retained the Ford bolt pattern to the bellhousing but used a unique GM-size bearing retainer and input shaft. Note the bellhousing has two bolt patterns. The "wide" pattern is Muncie/Saginaw and the tall, narrow pattern is Ford.

Old Jun 11, 2017 | 07:45 AM
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Thank you. I sold my 69 442 close to 30 years ago. Big mistake. Thanks for the information. Sounds like it would be best to find the Muncie with the bellhousing and all the needed stuff. I would more rather have a 4 speed anyways. What is a hole in the hump for a shifter!! I don`t think the column shift would clear headers on it anyways.
Old Jun 11, 2017 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by nycstlrr
I don`t think the column shift would clear headers on it anyways.
Depends on the particular brand and model number of the headers. Some do, some don't. Of course, the column shift linkage uses exactly the same parts as the backdrive linkage on a floor shift or MT car. Often only minor bending is needed to get the rod to clear.

I also assume you are aware of the pilot bearing issue on AT cranks, right?
Old Jun 11, 2017 | 07:57 AM
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Yep, I bought a 68 350 years back, #5 heads, the whole deal. It came with the 3 speed attached to it. I guess that is why you keep stuff.... Lesson learned.
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