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Looks really clean. There was no such thing as a "lightweight Bench seat". All W-30's came with no "sound deadeners" to reduce weight. I was thinking there was one similar at auction in the last year or so in AZ ? It claimed extremely low miles and a member on here may have looked at it.
Looks really clean. There was no such thing as a "lightweight Bench seat". All W-30's came with no "sound deadeners" to reduce weight. I was thinking there was one similar at auction in the last year or so in AZ ? It claimed extremely low miles and a member on here may have looked at it.
Maybe "lightweight" was just another term for a normal bench seat. After all, my '71 supreme came from the dealer with something called the "over-stuffed" bench seat. It's listed on the window sticker.
It's a nice car! But...I think it's got a story to tell. A lot of small stuff that looks like it's been replaced, like the rad cap. The wiring harness on the wiper motor, that plug...it looks like that harness may be repro, at least to me. The way the rt hand inner fender looks faded, the rt hand shoulder belt looks pitted, the e brake is missing hooks and not set up right. Never seen a shifter ball like that, but the little console like thing at the base is cool. I really haven't seen many bench 4 spd 70's to know about that stuff. It just seems off for a 70 car with 2k on it.
i also noticed that.but would this be noted only on the build sheet?
The W-27 had to be ordered, and I am thinking it was an extra cost option. When I ordered my W-30, I asked the "heavy maintenance mechanic" about ordering it and he told me it wouldn't stand up for drag racing, so just got the "Type O".
Originally Posted by chip-powell
Maybe "lightweight" was just another term for a normal bench seat. After all, my '71 supreme came from the dealer with something called the "over-stuffed" bench seat. It's listed on the window sticker.
"lightweight bench seat" is being creative. k two bucket seats are lighter than the bench seat.
Originally Posted by mrolds69
It's a nice car! But...I think it's got a story to tell. A lot of small stuff that looks like it's been replaced, like the rad cap. The wiring harness on the wiper motor, that plug...it looks like that harness may be repro, at least to me. The way the rt hand inner fender looks faded, the rt hand shoulder belt looks pitted, the e brake is missing hooks and not set up right. Never seen a shifter ball like that, but the little console like thing at the base is cool. I really haven't seen many bench 4 spd 70's to know about that stuff. It just seems off for a 70 car with 2k on it.
Its entirely possible the mileage is legit. The engine paint looks fresh and the engine lift bracket was painted.
IDK if its true or not, but on another post someone said 4-speed W30's didn't get the notched valve covers because there was no brake booster to interfere with it. Anybody know if this is true?
IDK if its true or not, but on another post someone said 4-speed W30's didn't get the notched valve covers because there was no brake booster to interfere with it. Anybody know if this is true?
Correct. Non A/C and manual brake cars got the standard valve covers because there was no need for the notches for clearance.
Has anybody checked the date codes on the tires I bet you NO. Why would you paint the engine with only 2K miles. I bet if you look close you will find it has 102k miles
not 2K. Where are the records from a dealer on work done. 2K I think not. My 72 H/O had 67K and looked just as nice.
Has anybody checked the date codes on the tires I bet you NO. Why would you paint the engine with only 2K miles. I bet if you look close you will find it has 102k miles
not 2K. Where are the records from a dealer on work done. 2K I think not. My 72 H/O had 67K and looked just as nice.
What are you thinkin on the tire date codes ? I think the comment by a member last year who looked at it said "add 100.000 miles to that".
Correct. Non A/C and manual brake cars got the standard valve covers because there was no need for the notches for clearance.
I never noticed that after all these years looking at pics it seems like every 442 4spd w-30 had the notched covers. That car seems to be fairly correct so hard to argue and it makes sense. I know the notched covers are reproduced because of the need but are the regular valve covers still available or reproduced?
I believe it may have 2,300 miles. Maybe it's 2,300 miles 1/4 mile at a time. Maybe it was in an accident at the race track and the whole right side was wiped out. Maybe that's why the right belt looks pitted and rusted, the rt fender liner looks faded, the rad cap is gone, etc. Maybe it had an engine fire, who knows? When I said it had a story to tell, that's what I meant. It looks like a nice car to me. It seems like it's got nice docs. It's just got to be looked at carefully.
Every 442/w30 I’ve ever owned had notched valve covers. None were AC cars. One a 4 speed.
Find it more likely people got replacement engines from other models which had flat covers and never switched back to the correct notched covers from the original. My 68 H/O was non numbers matching and the previous owner just left whatever the replacement engine came with on there (flat covers). And this was an AC car......of course I switched them out.
Surprised this keeps being debated?
I’ve just always understood the 455’s in the A-bodies had notched covers. Would be cool to learn something new after all these years....?
Correct. Non A/C and manual brake cars got the standard valve covers because there was no need for the notches for clearance.
Not true. The engine assembly manual for 1970 clearly shows notched covers for all A-body 455s. There was no distinction made on options. I'd be very interested in any factory literature that contradicts this.
Not true. The engine assembly manual for 1970 clearly shows notched covers for all A-body 455s. There was no distinction made on options. I'd be very interested in any factory literature that contradicts this.
X1. I agree with Joe on this. I understand the logic of not needing them but all big blocks in "A" body cars got notched valve covers.
Not true. The engine assembly manual for 1970 clearly shows notched covers for all A-body 455s. There was no distinction made on options. I'd be very interested in any factory literature that contradicts this.
I saw that somewhere and it made sense to me at the time and I have just rolled with it. If I'm wrong, I'll bite that bullet.
IDK if its true or not, but on another post someone said 4-speed W30's didn't get the notched valve covers because there was no brake booster to interfere with it. Anybody know if this is true?
My experience has been that 4 spd W30's DID GET the notched covers.....in part based on a very original '70 W30 ragtop 4 spd I did a lot of work on a few years back. Definitely a survivor car and had 39K miles on it.
My buddy Brian bought a '70 W30 4 spd post coupe from the original owner back in '77. It had the notched valve covers on it. He still has it & spent a small fortune having a frame off done at Thornton's back in '13
I considered buying this car back in the 90s and the car had cragars Mickey Thompson valve covers and I believe it had headers on it at the time the car had the exactly same miles as stated it had in the ad. Greg
Hi, I just joined to post the following. I don't own an Oldsmobile but my first car was a 67 Cutlass and I'd dearly love to own a 70 Rallye 350. But that all aside, this same car has been discussed on the Chevelle board where I belong (and am a moderator). Our discussion led me here.
Anyway, the point of this post is to let you all know that I live about 5 miles from Restore A Musclecar where the car is being sold. If anyone here is honestly interested in the car I'd be happy to visit the car in person, ask questions and get additional photos. Just let me know if I can help, but be aware I don't have the time to run over there 3 times a week due to my work and life schedule, but I'll do what I can for serious inquiries and requests.
Cars I do have in my garage: 1965 Malibu SS L79 (350hp/327), 1965 Chevelle 2-door wagon (427, 4-speed, hot rod, slight protouring build), 1964 GTO (tripower, 4-speed), 2006 GTO, 1969 Chevy C10 shortbox (used to haul around the others). We have some daily drivers too of course. Dad owned a 69 Delta 88 with a 350 and a 72 Delta 88 Royale with a 455, I really wish I could have that 72 back, it was a FANTASTIC road car (and I don't typically like big cars). We logged well over 200k miles on the 72, sold it still running to a college student who became popular because her car could take half her dorm to the bars in one trip.
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Why would they paint the engine, etc with only 2k miles on it? Wrong valve covers? The engines coming down the line didn't know if they were for ac or non ac, power brake or non power brake cars. I'm not sure, but doubt if Olds would have engine set up one way or the other? No paperwork documenting the W-27?
This is what an unrestored, unmolested engine compartment looks like. It's from a '72 442 with a 455 a/c automatic & 4k miles on the odometer.
March 26th, 2019, 07:33 PM
