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Any MCACN judges or previous show participants on the forum?
I am now the proud caretaker of one of Tim Murphy's (69442murph) personal cars and it will be at this years MCACN show. I want to show others his amazing work. The car was completed in 2013 and has about 900 miles on the restoration. As with any car, there were a few items that needed refresh such as the manifolds etc. With that said, I am looking for some advise from those that judge at MCACN and from those who have shown their Carrs in the past. Thanks for your input and suggestions!!!
1) What is the most common area to have points deducted?
2) What is the most common items that people get wrong?
3) Do they crawl under the cars and sit in the interior?
4) Any deductions if I have a "battery topper" or is just having a GM battery in the car ok?
5) Should I show the car with the top up or down?
Last edited by Cfos0031!; Feb 15, 2025 at 12:19 AM.
Classy looking 69’. Would keep the top up and clean the hard to reach spots first. Guessing paint would be a category with the most deductions because of the area involved.
Dustin
Don't know what deductions it might receive but just from the one photo, that's a beautiful car! I had no idea Tim did such incredible work. He just came off as a meat-and-potatoes guy like the rest of us.
Don't know what deductions it might receive but just from the one photo, that's a beautiful car! I had no idea Tim did such incredible work. He just came off as a meat-and-potatoes guy like the rest of us.
Tim did a lot of cars for others that won gold at MCACN. He restored Tony B. Trophy Blue W30 convertible and I believe his Glade green W30. He did a 1969 Hurst, 1970 W1, 1971 W30 4sp convertible, 1969 Ram Air IV GTO, 1967 L78 Nova and many others. He was just extremely humble and stayed out of the spot light. He was just able to turn his passion into a living after his employer moved his facility to Mexica several years ago. Unfortunately he was not able to finish his masterpiece, his 69 H/O ((90% done). However the car was purchased by a gentleman who sent it straight to the restoration shop to complete it. I will post a couple more pictures.
Fabulous craftmanship and attention to detail on that car.
Yes, it definitely deserves a "script repro" battery.
It amazes me how some guys will obsess over correct hose clamps and stickers, and then cheap out with an Interstate battery or a Stant radiator cap.
I Have had cars judged at MCCAN. Way more detailed judging than OCA. Yes they crawl under, over and in every inch of the car. They spent 2 hrs judging my last car there 2 yrs ago.
Remember there are different classes. Concours stock, day 2 and modified. My comments apply to concours stock. The other classes are judged more for appearance and cleanliness than correctness.
They check parts for correct numbers and dates. Even if the parts looks exactly like the original if it does not have a part number or date on it they should deduct points. For instance my alternator was an over the counter NOS replacement part that was the correct open face Diamond back model but did not have the part number stamp. Got deducted full amount for incorrect appearance even though it looks exactly like original just without numbers that 99% of people don’t even see. Any blemish no matter how small on chrome or paint will get a deduction. I think the most common deductions are for part numbers like Noted above and incorrect hardware and finishes.
Yes the deductions are a bit subjective and may seem harsh but that’s why it’s the creme of the crop. I personally find it difficult to understand how any car can be 1000 pts in concours at the show. You can pretty much find something to deduct on just about any car.
I Have had cars judged at MCCAN. Way more detailed judging than OCA. Yes they crawl under, over and in every inch of the car. They spent 2 hrs judging my last car there 2 yrs ago.
Remember there are different classes. Concours stock, day 2 and modified. My comments apply to concours stock. The other classes are judged more for appearance and cleanliness than correctness.
They check parts for correct numbers and dates. Even if the parts looks exactly like the original if it does not have a part number or date on it they should deduct points. For instance my alternator was an over the counter NOS replacement part that was the correct open face Diamond back model but did not have the part number stamp. Got deducted full amount for incorrect appearance even though it looks exactly like original just without numbers that 99% of people don’t even see. Any blemish no matter how small on chrome or paint will get a deduction. I think the most common deductions are for part numbers like Noted above and incorrect hardware and finishes.
Yes the deductions are a bit subjective and may seem harsh but that’s why it’s the creme of the crop. I personally find it difficult to understand how any car can be 1000 pts in concours at the show. You can pretty much find something to deduct on just about any car.
That is completely what I have expected and somewhat experienced when I at MCACN as a spectator. The car is number matching including the alternator (original to the car) but it is 56yrs old. I actually look forward to the scrutiny. If it scores silver I will be happy. All this info helps! Again, I just want to show case my late friends work.
That is completely what I have expected and somewhat experienced when I at MCACN as a spectator. The car is number matching including the alternator (original to the car) but it is 56yrs old. I actually look forward to the scrutiny. If it scores silver I will be happy. All this info helps! Again, I just want to show case my late friends work.
numbers matching helps a lot even if it’s got blemishes. Blemishes are small point deductions. Non vin engine is 40 points off right there so an almost perfect non numbers car is tough to get gold.
