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Old May 5, 2014 | 06:53 PM
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75 442 value opinion

Do these figures look correct? I don't know 75 442s very well. It shows $11,000 for an average condition car. I didn't think it would be this high. I am going to look at one soon and the guy claims it is original paint and rust free and in excellent condition. It has 61,000 miles on it.

http://www.nadaguides.com/Classic-Ca...lonnade/Values

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Old May 5, 2014 | 07:09 PM
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No, they don't look right. The 75 442 was based on the Cutlass S, not the Cutlass Supreme. This is more like what you should be looking at, and surprise - it's even higher value (I took the liberty of adding the 442 option, and AC) http://www.nadaguides.com/Classic-Ca...lonnade/Values

EDIT: if the car has the L74 455 it's worth even more.
Old May 5, 2014 | 08:35 PM
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When I plug in my zip, avg retail is $8550 and low is $4100.
Old May 5, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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It's going to depend a lot on the cars options and overall condition. IF it's a real 442 optioned car with the good options, it will be worth a lot more than those values.
Old May 5, 2014 | 10:24 PM
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Did Allen forget this is a 75 442 we are talking about? I wouldnt pay 14 grand for a 75 442 if someone spotted me 10,000 dollars. There is ZERO market for those cars. Ive never heard someone say "real" and "75 442" in the same sentence before.

My father has a 1976 Corvette, L82, 4 speed, deluxe leather and loaded out with optional 3.70 rear. Build sheet, tank sticker and original window sticker. 24,000 miles original. Best offer he got was 13,000.

How can a 75 442 be worth more than his Corvette?
Old May 5, 2014 | 10:57 PM
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No Jason, I didn't forget. I was simply going on the valuations of the price guide. I wouldn't say there is 0 market for them either - there is a following; just it's not you. The car will sell for what someone will pay for it, or the owner will just keep it. No biggie.

This is simply what NADA says: 1975 Cutlass S (442 with 455/AC)

Haggerty says it's worth some bucks too, even with a 260 and plain colonade coupe. Add the same options as ^^ and it's pretty consistent. http://www.hagerty.ca/valuationtools...port?vc=178626

Your Dad's corvette is competitively worth more - no argument. If he was in the market to sell, he'll have to decide what he'll sell for. Markets and economics dictate a lot of prices. Anyone can ask what they want, but the buyer will decide what they'll pay.
http://www.hagerty.ca/valuationtools...port?vc=320720

http://www.nadaguides.com/Classic-Ca...upe-L82/Values
Old May 6, 2014 | 02:14 AM
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1975 or 76 any make or model is only worth what the market demands.Imho less than 5 digits.Nick
Old May 6, 2014 | 10:39 AM
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I know of one 1976 442 that is rare and worth every penny the owner would ask. It was specifically requested by Oldsmobile at the 97 Centennial parade. This car is nice on the web, but even more impressive in person.

The Beast - Ken Pilidis Oldsmobile 442
Old May 6, 2014 | 12:22 PM
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My opinions about all the old car price guides have been well documented here previously. Suffice to say that the price guides primarily base their valuation on auction data, which always skews high. Couple this with the fact that there just aren't enough of these cars sold in public forums to build a statistically valid data base. The price guides might be closer to reality for high volume cars like Camaros, Corvettes, and Mustangs, but a 1975 Olds will be a guess at best. The factors applied to different conditions, models, and equipment are nothing more that extrapolations and estimates based on the historical performance of other brands and models, so put whatever filter on that data you want.

This same price guide shows almost $24K for a big block 1975 H/O in top condition. I'm sorry, but you'll be hard pressed to get $24K for the nicest 1975 H/O on the planet, unless Linda herownself comes with it.
Old May 6, 2014 | 01:04 PM
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I agree Alan, Ken's car is very nice and quite unique. However I will agree with everyone else that there really are not any truly valuable cars comparatively from the 75/76 vintage.


TK-65, most people think the last good C3 Corvette rolled off the line in 72. I wasn't impressed with the later Vettes from 73-91. With perhaps a small exception for the ZR-1.
Old May 6, 2014 | 05:36 PM
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Just remember these are just your opinions. Contrary to beleif these cars are rising in value and popularity. Just because you don't follow them or like them does not mean there are no high dollar ones out there. Sure, they won't pull 70-W30 money, not even close. But to say they'll never be worth such and such because so in so could'nt sell his whatever for a certain price is just rediculas. It's this kind of negativity that makes others disslike something. Kinda like everyone who does not know any better wanting to put a c#$%y motor in their Olds then sticking to the Olds motor in it because of people and magazines pushing it.

Priceguides are just opinions and based on nonsense. And you might wanna check and see how much Linda sold her 75 H/O for.

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Old May 6, 2014 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by nsnarsk65cutlass
1975 or 76 any make or model is only worth what the market demands.
Or any other year.
Old May 6, 2014 | 06:12 PM
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I know the obvious of it being worth what someone will pay but I just wanted to see what people thought of the value NADA put on them. I have seen where they are very accurate and also seen them way off. I never followed the 73-77 much but have seen low milage Cutlasses in the 5 digits but they were showroom mint. I would be willing to bet this car to be average and not show room mint. I felt that the average in the book was high and I think most here confirmed that. Not much sold on ebay to get a good idea from there. I have seen a growing trend on the 73-77 as well as the 61-63. This is why I am somewhat interested in seeing this 75 442. If i don't want it maybe I can offer it here for him.
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Start out with an offer around 8K and see where it goes.
Old May 7, 2014 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by jensenracing77
I just wanted to see what people thought of the value NADA put on them. I have seen where they are very accurate and also seen them way off.
And again, their data only comes from public sale data, primarily big name auctions. For cars that sell in large numbers (Camaros, Corvettes, Mustangs) there is a large enough historical database to produce a statistically valid sample size and thus develop a fairly accurate value picture. For less popular cars like the mid-70s Cutlii that don't sell publicly very often, not so much.
Old May 7, 2014 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jensenracing77
Do these figures look correct? I don't know 75 442s very well. It shows $11,000 for an average condition car. I didn't think it would be this high. I am going to look at one soon and the guy claims it is original paint and rust free and in excellent condition. It has 61,000 miles on it.


'75 442s are quite rare. But the overall values of the '73-'77s just are not that high. Sure there has been exceptions of survivor cars getting top dollar but IMO any of those year cars needs to be a well preserved examples to get five figure prices. These are my favorite years but to most they are not that desirable due to lack of power and stuff. In turn, the aftermarket reproduction is very limited.


Originality of these cars is proportionate to their values. Say it's original paint, well that's amazing to find these days. If it is original, the stripes are decals and not painted on. I know there is a guy on the other forum looking for such so he can get tracing of the stripes to get correct ones re-produced.


Another thing I consider is documentation. In '75 the 442 is just an option and could easily be cloned. So if car has paperwork proving it's a 442, is a big plus and makes it a lot more valuable to me.
Old May 7, 2014 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jwsolds
Another thing I consider is documentation. In '75 the 442 is just an option and could easily be cloned. So if car has paperwork proving it's a 442, is a big plus and makes it a lot more valuable to me.
Shades of 1972 442 all over again.
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