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Old Jun 25, 2019 | 11:49 AM
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'69 W32 Engine ID question

I am the owner of a well-documented, original '69 W32 & have a couple of questions perhaps someone can clarify for me:
1.The paper engine ID tag on the oilfiller tube is 75% complete but the two letter code is partially missing. I can make out the 'Q' but not the second letter.
Would be a 'QW' since the W32 had the manual trans 350hp version, still the QR auto trans, or some other code?

2. The engine stamp pad has the correct VIN stamped but an additional, larger 75570 stamped below the VIN stamp. looking close the larger 75570 number appears to have been stamped after the VIN stamp.
Anyone seen this?
Thanks for the help, great site!

Old Jun 25, 2019 | 12:05 PM
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Welcome to the site from Marble Falls Richard. I can't help with your questions, but have no fear, someone here knows.
Just wanted to say Howdy!
Old Jun 25, 2019 | 04:07 PM
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The 75570 stamp is not from the factory. Something has been done to this engine subsequent to delivery to the original owner.
Old Jun 25, 2019 | 04:50 PM
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Solid question, QL according to Fusick for a 69 W32. One of less than 300 cars...lets see the pics!
Check out the Fusick catalog.
https://www.fusickautomotiveproducts...0&pagenumber=4

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Old Jun 25, 2019 | 04:56 PM
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Engine rebuilt at 75,570 on the clock is my wager.
Old Jun 25, 2019 | 05:45 PM
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Good thought, car now has 111k, so rebuilding possible. Thanks

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Engine rebuilt at 75,570 on the clock is my wager.
Old Jun 25, 2019 | 05:47 PM
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I'm going to guess it was a machine shop "invoice" system. I have seen this before on heads and other components, usually on an inconspicuous area. Check other areas. Good luck!
Old Jun 26, 2019 | 08:49 AM
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I thought all 69 W-32's were turbo 400's?
Old Jun 26, 2019 | 09:51 AM
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I thought the same thing when I first read Richards first post.
Yes all 69, W32s were automatics.
What he is saying is the W32 has the standard 442 (Non W30) stick engine with an auto trans.
Old Jun 26, 2019 | 07:28 PM
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Oh ok, I believe in 70-71 the W-32 became the SX model. More options could be had with this model.
Old Jun 26, 2019 | 08:35 PM
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The w-32 and the SX had nothing to do with each other.
Old Jun 26, 2019 | 09:24 PM
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The w-32 and the SX had nothing to do with each other.
Not related in '69 as the SX did not exist until 1970, but in '70 the W32 engine was an option on the SX. It was the 442 automatic engine.
Old Jun 27, 2019 | 07:51 AM
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From what I understand, the 69 w-32 was an automatic 442 with a G block 400, the cam for the standard trans 442, and OAI. The 70 w-32 was a Cutlass with an automatic trans, and auto trans configured 442 455, like you mention. I see very little relation.
Old Jun 27, 2019 | 09:42 AM
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Correct on 1969. Again not related in '69, as the SX option did not become available until 1970. All SX's were auto, and on the Supreme only, but the W32 option, which was only available in 1970, and only on the SX, gave you the 455/442 automatic trans engine, not the manual trans cam. This was an option above the std. SX 455 2bbl. engine, and above the later std. (Feb. 1970) 455 4bbl engine, which used a different camshaft than the W32. O.A.I. could have been ordered in 1970, though very uncommon on the SX. The connection between 1969 and 1970 was that the W32 could be had both years, but what that option entailed, changed quite a bit between the two years.
Old Jun 27, 2019 | 09:56 AM
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The OP asks a very specific question about a 1969 W32 motor and we spend more time talking about the 1970 cars.
Isn't the internet a wonderful tool for getting information...

To summarize the answers to the OP's questions, which are explicitly documented in the 1969 Engine Assembly Manual supplement to the PIM, the two letter code for the W32 motor was "QL". Differences between the W32 motor and other 400 motors that year were the use of the MT cam (393859) and a unique distributor (1111989).
Old Jun 27, 2019 | 10:50 AM
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I wish people would stop calling an ENGINE..... A MOTOR!!! A motor runs your washing machine

Gentlemen..........start your........MOTOR!!!!
Old Jun 27, 2019 | 05:15 PM
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Then why is it called General "Motors" and not General "Engines?" Ditto for Ford "Motor" Company.

"MOPAR" originally stood for "Motor Parts."

The list goes on.
Old Jun 27, 2019 | 05:58 PM
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It may be a long list but rr69ho is correct. A motor runs on electricity a engine runs on fuel or steam.... Just saying..... Tedd
Old Jun 27, 2019 | 06:31 PM
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I don't think it's that clear cut. The dictionary definition of "motor" is simply "a device that imparts motion." There's no mention of how it's powered. A gasoline engine is one type of motor. A steam engine is another type. I think General "Motors" and Ford "Motor" Company have it right.
Old Jun 27, 2019 | 08:35 PM
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The OP asks a very specific question about a 1969 W32 motor and we spend more time talking about the 1970 cars.
Isn't the internet a wonderful tool for getting information...
Sorry about that, Joe!
Old Jun 28, 2019 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jaunty75
Then why is it called General "Motors" and not General "Engines?" Ditto for Ford "Motor" Company.

"MOPAR" originally stood for "Motor Parts."

The list goes on.

Yeah, they're all MOTOR CARS..........w/COMBUSTION ENGINES!!!!
Old Jun 28, 2019 | 10:29 AM
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AND way back when, you went "motoring." Take it for what it is, we all know what folks are referring to. I call them engines.
Old Jun 28, 2019 | 08:23 PM
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I have an engine from a washing machine. kick start too
Old Jun 29, 2019 | 12:12 AM
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Maytag gyratator? I have the electric one a few years newer. Trying to get rid of it.
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