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It's fake. The font is wrong. The W30 option should read "Force-Air Induction System" Items listed as standard at the bottom, contain extra cost options, and therefore would not be listed there.
Yeah I don't know that I can agree with you. In 1969 These were not printed thru a computer with auto correct. The person TYPING out the window sticker named it what they named it. It was typed out by a human being. That is why you will see screw ups on original window stickers. That's my take.
PS: How is the font wrong?
Sweet *** Cool Oldsmobile!!
Last edited by no1oldsfan; Apr 24, 2021 at 09:16 PM.
The W option whether W30, W31, or W32 was listed the same as I posted above. U28 ashtray light was not an option, it was standard on these cars. B96 chrome wheel well opening moldings were an option on Holiday Coupes, not standard, nor included as part of the package.
This is an actual window sticker for 1969. Saying that the font or wording is different because
of the person typing just typed it that way it is erronous, they were standardized.
Last edited by 1969w3155; Apr 24, 2021 at 09:44 PM.
The font will be the same from the same plant in the same year. Check other '69 window stickers from the Lansing plant. I will stand corrected on his paperwork provided in the links, But the first window sticker that he provided was a fake, a later printing made by someone, not by the factory, of his partial window sticker shown in the link. That one does have the correct font. Why not show the real one in the first place?
Wheel opening moldings were standard on the 442 only, optional on the others, the window sticker is correct on that, listing them as standard. That article from wild about cars states the W32 was a select fit engine, like the W30 & W31s. I saw an article years ago, maybe in JWO??? that said the W32s were not factory "blueprinted engines" they were standard assembly line 400 engines that got the 350 hp cam. It also mentioned that they could be built at any plant not just Lansing, I know this was true of the later W32 cars, anyone else know???
I don't believe the W32 engines were select fit, but a 350 hp 4-speed engine fitted with the auto Q-Jet and a unique distributor. The were not meant to be raced as were the W30, W31 but just a more steet-able version available with power brakes. That would explain the difference in the description of the option.
I've also seen documents (not factory) stating A/C was available, but it was not.
My understanding was all forced-air induction cars will built in Lansing thru '69, that was the only assembly line that had the components & were set to drill the holes in the inner fenders for the air ducts.
My take, anyway.
I don't believe the W32 engines were select fit, but a 350 hp 4-speed engine fitted with the auto Q-Jet and a unique distributor. The were not meant to be raced as were the W30, W31 but just a more steet-able version available with power brakes. That would explain the difference in the description of the option.
I've also seen documents (not factory) stating A/C was available, but it was not.
My understanding was all forced-air induction cars will built in Lansing thru '69, that was the only assembly line that had the components & were set to drill the holes in the inner fenders for the air ducts.
My take, anyway.
I wish I saw this thread, earlier, and coming back to life.
Richard, the car looks great . You're right, these cars had a special distributor, and tough to "fake" and all w's built in Lansing. I have read that the w32 was built anywhere but earlier information hasn't proved that, and not select fit. There is a 69 super tuning and blue printing manual out and the 3 w cars are in there to make them go.and the 32 is no exception. It has part #s, specs and the like.
I have a 69 442 and am thinking about adding W32 cam while motor is out to paint. The car is power drum brakes with A/C. Does anyone have the specs on that cam?
I have a 69 442 and am thinking about adding W32 cam while motor is out to paint. The car is power drum brakes with A/C. Does anyone have the specs on that cam?
The 1969 W32 was offered with power brakes, but not A/C, however the non-availability of A/C was due to interference between the compressor and the O.A.I. air cleaner, not the vacuum level.
The 1969 W32 was offered with power brakes, but not A/C, however the non-availability of A/C was due to interference between the compressor and the O.A.I. air cleaner, not the vacuum level.
One could surmise that is why the mailbox is on the hood of the 69 H/O as they tried that maneuver with the 68 H/O with A/C and it is a tight fit.
I know that I installed the '70 W30 4 speed cam. The jets were consistent irrespective of the cams; both were richer. I don't know the manifold vacuum. What I do know was that my car ran like a dog, ET was 1.5 seconds slower and significantly lower MPH after installing the '70 W30 manual transmission cam. I also know that when I put the 442 automatic cam back in the engine, my ET dropped back to 13.20-13.30 and 106-108 mph in a quarter mile track. Still blows my mind. I expected lower ET and greater MPH with the '70 W30 manual transmission cam.
I guess Oldsmobile Engineers knew and that's the reason they installed the automatic 442 cam in the automatic W30's.
I still don't understand the reason for the lack of performance, but I was glad that time trials and the day ended.
Cool that you give the engineers credit. In that day they were considered very important and were given a lot of lee-way knowing their brillance could lead profitability of the product. Allowing them to follow their passion and shoot for the stars. The reason reason they create d a different cam for the manual and auto trans was to get the most performance out of both options. Clearly they knew what they were doing because low 13 runs and a 3700 lb car is pretty damn close to those stars.
