I guess the Nationals are going to be in Dayton next year, it said so in JWO. But I see no info on host hotel, etc, anyone know? Thanks Greg

 

The hotel info is supposed to be available after the first of the year.

 

I've been told February for hotel reservations. Hopefully, with the later date being 5-6months closer to the show, folks will have a better feel for their summer plans and this will eliminate reserving rooms only to cancel close to the event. I believe the OCA has been stuck paying for blocked out rooms for the no-shows. Does anyone know if this is a fact?

 

I believe the OCA has been stuck paying for blocked out rooms for the no-shows. Does anyone know if this is a fact?[/QUOTE]

I can’t imagine the hotel holding the OCA responsible. If folks have made reservations with a payment on file and failed to show or cancel within the specified window, as a rule they would be financially responsible.

 

It depends on the contract cut with the host hotel. Special group rates are predicated on a minimum number of rooms sold, and the contract will often have a penalty for unsold rooms. I believe last year the deal was that the first night was non-refundable for reservations, so it wasn't put on the club. Perhaps Sal will chime in here. Apparently the host hotel for '23 has a large number of rooms available.

 

Well the Western New York chapter of OCA sz the nats will be held at University of Dayton Marriot. OCA site does NOT say that, they say they will let us know in the March issue of JWO. I just rec'd the Jan Issue so I assume March issue will be in March. They say not to worry, there will be plenty of rooms- yeah I've heard that before, and wasn't able to get a room at host hotel- Last year in Murphreesboro for example- but that worked out OK to not get a room at host as the other hotel was easily walked to- But how about Dayton???

 

I thought I read that the rooms won't be "released" until March 15.

 

What's JWO? Sorry if it's a stupid question.

 

Journey with Olds. It's the OCA's monthly magazine.

 

 

Do you need to be a club member to get in? I wouldn't imagine so with a show of this size, but being OCA I feel its necessary to ask.

I'm about an hour north of Dayton, so I'll more than likely be down there. Not sure if I'd stay overnight vs. just go home and come back. Sure, it may sound ridiculous..but if this is anything like Mopar Nats in Hebron, its well worth it to avoid the hour one way trip.

 

Spectators are free and welcome. You need to be an OCA member to enter a car and participate in the events.

 

Ah, okay. Thank you.

I reckon I'll need to figure out what chapter I'd be then. I looked into it once before, just can't remember how it shook out.

 

You don't need to be a chapter member to join the OCA.

 

Oh, okay..well then I reckon I'll look into that then, ha!

 

Unlike the old regime of Realoldspower, there is no secret handshake,password or personal association required. Send the payment and the publication starts arriving in your post box. Growing up within earshot of top fuel dragsters running down National Trails, I can only imagine why the Mopar folks would sponsor a National event in Hebron!!😂🤣. I would absolutely strongly suggest that you’d set the time aside to attend a national Olds event, especially if it is only an hour away. Good people, and some awesome cars. If it is feasible, bring your car to show. Even if it is not a trophy contender, you’ll stir conversation and learn more than you’d ever expect. Cheap entertainment!!

 

You can join with a print magazine mailed or there is also an e-membership option with the magazine online only, which is great for trying our the club and that would still allow you to participate in Nationals.
https://www.oldsmobileclub.org/page/Membership

There a lot of chapters in Ohio, but as Joe says only need to be an OCA member to participate in the national event. Though we encourage you to look at the chapters as well. We would love to have your 69 at the show! There are classes that are non-judged, show only as well if you don't want to be judged. The event moves around the country, so may never be this close to you again for a while, so hopefully you can make it.

The OCA Nationals is one of the largest and premier Oldsmobile events in the country, but is much smaller than the Mopar Nats you mentioned. That show says they have 3,000 cars, OCA nationals are typically 300-500 cars plus swap meet. Show day is Friday, and you could come with the car for just the one day as well though need to be there by usually 9am.

Any other questions you can PM me as well.

 

Thanks for the info, its definitely uncharted territory as the group of Mopars I came from were strictly Malaise era. The idea of a "club" was more knowing where we could get parts since there was no aftermarket support. I for sure plan on going, and would like to enter as well. This car deserves to be shown off after being kept in a barn for the last 15 years. I may just sit down after practice tonight and get myself set up with some sort of membership.

Mopar Nats is huge, but hasn't had near the draw since Roadkill nights is the same weekend. Dodge pretty much pulled 90% of their support to stick with Roadkill and its gone downhill ever since. That, and the prices & golf cart traffic is a joke **jumping off soap box before I derail the thread completely**

 

Sorry to hear that about the Mopar Nats. I used to go but I no longer have a Mopar ( but I still love them). I think last time we were there was 1997.

 

Back in 2017 and 2018 I attended the Hurst Nationals in Carlisle with the 79 Hurst Olds I had at the time and the one I have now, and at the same time the large Mopar event was held. We had one tie-in to that show with the Hurst Barracuda, the one that did all the wheelies back in the day.

Anyway, the Mopar show was great, once the Hurst Nationals died out I wanted to bring our 2012 Dodge Caliber to the Mopar event but that never happened.

 

It looks like Kilkare raceway is the closest and would be the site for the National meet's drag race. Their calendar shows a test and tune on Thursday and a gasser event on the weekend.

 

Rund to Run---The Southeast Gassers put on a great show:

Homepage Southeast Gassers - Southeast Gassers Association

 

[QUOTE=Tri-Carb;1473898]Rund to Run---The Southeast Gassers put on a great show:
True, I saw them this past August in London KY. It was a blast!! I just wish that the photo’s included sounds/smells.

 

That is likely the son of the late Houston Platt with the Dixie Twister. Houston and his brother, Hubert, also put on some great match races back in the 60s.

 

I’m planning to take both of my ‘72 Supremes if I get a co-driver for the four hour trip: My V Code and my ‘72 H/O sunroof car. With only 77 built, I’m guessing it will be one of very few V Code Supremes that have ever been to Nationals. It needs to be seen!
Terry

 

Take the V code to Dayton and the OCA, take the H/O to Gettysburg and the H/OCA. Easy enough.

 

i’m planning to go to Gettysburg Thursday night and Friday, but one of my bands has a standing annual gig in Erie, PA that Saturday evening so I’ll miss the Saturday show day. If everyone is out doing battlefield tours and the like much of the day Friday it may not be worth the trip though. We’ll see.
Terry

 

can you explain this statement?

 

I hope to go and take my Jetfire again.

 

I could but I'm going to let him explain it.

 

does it have to do with an OCA club president being sued?

 

No it doesn't

 

A couple things in response to the above concerns

1. In the past when we had active chapters that would help host th National Events, they were planned as far out as 3 years before. The lack of doers has forced the Natiojnal Olds Club of America board to take a more active role in planning the annual National Event. Even at that level they have a hard time getting people to help out at the National meets.. OH everybody like to come, but ask people to help out , dead silence...

Younger people have not joined the club, and older members can't help out like they used to do. A lot have passed away..

Many younger people think joining the Facebook page makes them a OCA member like the other hokey Oldsmobile Facebook groups that couldn't pull off a national meet if they tried. I takes a lot of money and planning to make it happen.. If it wasn't for the National OCA board, there would not be a Nationals and all participating should give a big round of thanks to them for making it happen... It takes a lot of work to host at different locations in order for people in different locations have the opportunity to attend a National. And planing cool local tours... As we also saw doing Murfeesborough, TN there was a fall off of attendees. Great to be in the middle of USA but people from say California, or Maine or Florida its not so close by... But Yes I get it, a lot of OCA members reside in the midwest..

Next, the issue of the National Club has paid for No-Shows, the forced payment of being responsible for just one night if cancelled was a huge change of club policy recently, maybe a year or two ago.

In 2017, the National OCA paid for a ton of no shows in Albuquerque for example.

why things are the way they are..

Regards,
Fred
OCA member since 1980

 

Amen, Fred. Well said.

The thing most people don't realize is that most OCA members live in the east. Over half are east of the Mississippi, and significantly more than 25% are in the Atlantic Northeast Zone. Look at where the chapters are, and you'll figure out where the members live.

 

Is the "discounted rate" even that big of a difference to begin with? I'd rather have the flexibility versus saving $10 to $15 / night but understand I may be in the minority with that thinking.

Regardless, very appreciative of all the people that put their time in to making events like that happen.

 

So, the National Club is whining about putting on a National meet. Hmmmm, maybe I'm dumb, but it seems like that's their job. Chapter show put on by a local chapter? Makes sense to me.

Oldsmobile enthusiasts are dwindling fast. One is lost with every LS swap, as far as I'm concerned. At that point, the marque has lost its heart and become just another GM trim level.

 

In my case I'm not really worried about the discount. I am wanting to get a room at the host hotel, or if others are really close- that's ok too. But I don't know the Dayton area- I don't want to gat a room at a place across town. At Murfreesboro we couldn't get a room at the host, but we got one basically 30' away. So that was fine. It's amazing how much you miss if your room is a mile away. If it's close you can just hang out at event- not remove the Olds from the lot, etc. I drive my car from home- no trailer.

 

I get that. I prefer Marriott properties so for the Tennessee nationals I used google maps to find what I needed.

 

i didnt see a discounted rate for rooms at embassy suites during the nationals both years.

better off going on priceleine or hotels.com for a price break

 

go back to ROP if youre going to stir the pot troublemaker