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Old Feb 12, 2025 | 09:43 PM
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1971 442 will it start after sitting 3 years??

Or will the gas be bad?

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Old Feb 13, 2025 | 05:14 AM
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After 3 yrs,,, the gas will be bad yes. suggest flushing the tank and lines, put in fresh fuel ,dump the oil,, add fresh everything. YOU could also remove the spark plugs & crank it over for a bit resting the starting between cranks so as not to over heat it, this will prime the oil pump. & lubricate things. install the plugs & fire her up..
NICE LOOKING CAR, LOOKS SOLID !!!

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Old Feb 13, 2025 | 05:26 AM
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Agree the gas is very likely bad.

Be certain the engine can be turned freely by hand before cranking or starting the engine.
Old Feb 13, 2025 | 05:41 AM
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Follow zl1's and Sugar Bear's advice.

Beyond that, I've got experience starting cars with long storage time. And I've even looked inside the engine afterward on some.

If stored with conventional oil, you need to prime them or you'll get some light bearing marks--depending on time and storage temperature. Hot storage seems to be worse.

If you're away from home, you can do it with only a few hand tools. Remove the distributor and turn the oil pump with a speed handle until you feel resistance, then another 15 seconds.

One stored 10 years in very clean conditions with synthetic oil had zero bearing marks without any priming.
Old Feb 13, 2025 | 07:04 AM
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Looks good, I like the hood
Old Feb 13, 2025 | 07:09 AM
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Thx guys, I usually take the plugs out and use marvel mystery oil in the cylinders, have had great luck with this method.
Then sit for a few and Rotate a few times.
I was hoping maybe the fuel possible might still be good.
Old Feb 13, 2025 | 08:00 AM
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If it is in a dry climate and it is non-ethanol fuel the fuel MIGHT be okay. Listen closely for detonation, a sign of bad fuel. The safest bet is fresh premium grade gasoline.

Keep us posted and more pics!
Old Feb 13, 2025 | 11:23 AM
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More pics

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Old Feb 13, 2025 | 11:53 AM
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Droldsmorland has a detailed restart list if you want to look it up.

3 years, the bearings probably have some film left on them. If you wanted to be sure, you could change the oil, yank the distributor, and prime the system. If not, hand turnover first, maybe with plugs out.

You could clean the points.

Get a cheap siphon pump and suck out the bad gas. It will take a few pumps to get it going, then it's just a waiting game till it's done. Put a couple gallons of good gas in tank. If it has a rubber line to the carb from the fuel pump with metal ends, you can take the hose off the carb end, put it into a coke bottle, and put a new rubber hose from a gas can into the carb. You can run the car for a little on the red can, and the fuel pump will pump ugly gas into the bottle. Keep draining the bottle, and, after ten seconds of running or so, the gas in the bottle should look good, and you can hook everything back up right and go put a full tank in it.

If you want an adventure, go drive it home. If you want no hassle, rent an Enterprise 3/4 ton dodge and a uhaul auto hauler, get the car running, drive it onto the trailer, strap it down, and worry about the rest of it from the time and safety and convenience of your garage.
Old Feb 13, 2025 | 11:54 AM
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Oh, if it still has the metal fuel pump to carb line intact, you could get a repro one, and cut it for the rubber hose connections to be made above.
Old Feb 13, 2025 | 12:54 PM
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Droldsmorland has a detailed restart list if you want to look it up.

3 years, the bearings probably have some film left on them. If you wanted to be sure, you could change the oil, yank the distributor, and prime the system. If not, hand turnover first, maybe with plugs out.

You could clean the points.

Get a cheap siphon pump and suck out the bad gas. It will take a few pumps to get it going, then it's just a waiting game till it's done. Put a couple gallons of good gas in tank. If it has a rubber line to the carb from the fuel pump with metal ends, you can take the hose off the carb end, put it into a coke bottle, and put a new rubber hose from a gas can into the carb. You can run the car for a little on the red can, and the fuel pump will pump ugly gas into the bottle. Keep draining the bottle, and, after ten seconds of running or so, the gas in the bottle should look good, and you can hook everything back up right and go put a full tank in it.

If you want an adventure, go drive it home. If you want no hassle, rent an Enterprise 3/4 ton dodge and a uhaul auto hauler, get the car running, drive it onto the trailer, strap it down, and worry about the rest of it from the time and safety and convenience of your garage.
thanks I’ve successfully started many engines that have been sitting for over 10-25 years. I was just wondering about the fuel possibly still could be good.
appreciate the write up

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Old Feb 13, 2025 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JOHNNYOLDS442
thanks I’ve successfully started many engines that have been sitting for over 10-25 years. I was just wondering about the fuel possibly still could be good.
appreciate the write up
Take the gas cap off and sniff, if the tank smells like varnish the fuel is bad. If it does not, then add some fresh fuel to the old and run it out.
Old Feb 13, 2025 | 04:28 PM
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Here ya go:
Think safety first for you and the car. Then reliability.
Depending on the distance it could be worth the 1500 or so to have it transported professionally.

Old Feb 13, 2025 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JOHNNYOLDS442
I’ve successfully started many engines that have been sitting for over 10-25 years. I was just wondering about the fuel possibly still could be good.
I believe it will start with current fuel but of course she will not be happy. Hopefully there is not much in there so that you can blend it with some high test asap.

The 67 330 I had sat 7 years straight untouched. And started, by doing the usaul prep work, etc. But in my case the gas tank was empty.

Nice car by the way.
Old Feb 13, 2025 | 06:05 PM
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Old Feb 15, 2025 | 10:08 AM
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What a find! I just returned from AZ. I saw a lot of older very nice cars. For sale? I didn't inquire. That damned dust is everywhere! Great purchase IMO.
Old Feb 15, 2025 | 11:02 AM
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Take the gas cap off and sniff, if the tank smells like varnish the fuel is bad. If it does not, then add some fresh fuel to the old and run it out.
smells really good not like vanish
Old Feb 15, 2025 | 01:34 PM
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Fired up

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Old Feb 15, 2025 | 01:40 PM
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Very nice looking ride, great color combo.
Old Feb 16, 2025 | 07:13 AM
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Very nice looking ride, great color combo.
Yeah, you don't see this color too much
Old Feb 16, 2025 | 07:29 AM
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Nicely optioned. Rallye pac, a/c, am/fm w/8 track, N34 sport wheel.
Old Feb 16, 2025 | 07:44 AM
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Nicely optioned. Rallye pac, a/c, am/fm w/8 track, N34 sport wheel.
Thx N34 yes usually you would have to add it.
where is the best place find the build sheet backseat?

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Old Feb 16, 2025 | 08:12 AM
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Y29 hood stripe too.
Old Feb 16, 2025 | 08:29 AM
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where is the best place find the build sheet backseat?
As it is a Lansing built car, finding a build sheet is unlikely, but the broadcast card may be in the car. Under the carpet, hog ringed under any of the seats. Rear seat back, check from the trunk.
Old Feb 17, 2025 | 07:32 AM
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I looked threw the trunk under the convertible bag ,all i see is the factory cardboard blocking the back of the seat.
I tried to take the back seat out but i could not fold the drivers power seat for some reason to get the bottom hook out on the drivers side.
I will try again with the power seat all the way forward i almost had it but its hard on an angle getting
my knee on it to push it back.
Old Feb 17, 2025 | 07:35 AM
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What a find! I just returned from AZ. I saw a lot of older very nice cars. For sale? I didn't inquire. That damned dust is everywhere! Great purchase IMO.
Yes it sure is dusty here!
Old Feb 17, 2025 | 09:28 AM
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Very nice car the tires look nice I would check the build date on them before a long ride.


Old Feb 17, 2025 | 12:59 PM
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Check on top of gas tank that's where what was left of mine was.
Car looks great, good luck
Old Feb 17, 2025 | 04:21 PM
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Brakes

What do you know about the brake system?
Old rubber lines can be a bad ending to a great day, they work fine until they don’t. .
Old Feb 17, 2025 | 08:49 PM
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Nice car, but I have to ask- You said it "fired right up", so I guess you made your post, then ignored everyone's advice?
LOL! I'd have done the same thing...
Old Feb 17, 2025 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by leftlaneonly
Very nice car the tires look nice I would check the build date on them before a long ride.
Actully was one of the first things i checked.
Old Feb 17, 2025 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by davek1661
Nice car, but I have to ask- You said it "fired right up", so I guess you made your post, then ignored everyone's advice?
LOL! I'd have done the same thing...
car was sitting 2,3 years according to the previous owner not 20-30.


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Old Feb 17, 2025 | 09:53 PM
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What do you know about the brake system?
Old rubber lines can be a bad ending to a great day, they work fine until they don’t. .
I figured i might go on a really long trip like cross country then check them when i get back. Lol
Old Feb 18, 2025 | 10:13 AM
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Congrats on a nice car. I don't remember if Flagstaff requires ethanol fuel or not, but the high altitude climate reduces the evaporation a bit. You're already done, but as long as the tank was below 1/2, just fill it with premium and drive it. Because of the relatively low humidity of Arizona, give the tires a hard look for dry rot regardless of the DOT date on the tires. New Mexico is even worse.
Enjoy the ride!
Old Feb 18, 2025 | 12:32 PM
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Congrats on a nice car. I don't remember if Flagstaff requires ethanol fuel or not, but the high altitude climate reduces the evaporation a bit. You're already done, but as long as the tank was below 1/2, just fill it with premium and drive it. Because of the relatively low humidity of Arizona, give the tires a hard look for dry rot regardless of the DOT date on the tires. New Mexico is even worse.
Enjoy the ride!
thanks I did. The tires are very rubbery and no dry cracks whatsoever. thx , The car only had 1/8 of a tank of fuel and the gas did not smell like Varnish. once you smell it you never forget that smell.

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Old Feb 20, 2025 | 06:36 AM
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Here ya go:
Think safety first for you and the car. Then reliability.
Depending on the distance it could be worth the 1500 or so to have it transported professionally.
Great write up
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