These are the production numbers (thru June) for 1970 cars with U15 option - safety sentinel speedo.




What is the decoding for the vehicle types (must be in the CSM)? Ex. 3600, 4800, etc.

 

3100 - F-85 (L-6)
3200 - F-85 (V-8)
3500 - Cutlass (L-6)
3600 - Cutlass (V-8)
4200 - Cutlass Supreme
4400 - 442
4800 - Vista-Cruiser

Can you provide column headings for the data? Curious if you have other options production #'s.

 

these aren't the actual headings ....... but it gets to the point

 

Those column description headings seem logically correct. However, 1970 was a production low due to an extended strike in Flint, MI. 293K+ total production for just these models in 1970 seems high. I don’t have any hard data to refute, except that there were only 4,800+ total Cutlass Supreme Convertibles made in 1970; total Supreme production of over 86,000 seems high for 1970. It would be interesting to see a breakdown of convertibles within the Cutlass Supreme and 442 models.

 

Just curious, what facilities in Flint went on strike

 

Fisher Body. 136 days. Longest in GM history.

 

it appears Flint Fisher Body plant #2 built Chevelles & Monte Carlos (& light truck) - no direct effect on OLDSMOBILE
Flint Fisher Body plant #1 built full-size Buick, Riviera & Skylark/Special and were not on strike

50 years ago, Flint UAW members went on strike and didn’t come back for 136 days - mlive.com

per "SETTING THE PACE" (& repeated in "the GOOD OLDS DAYS")1970 Cutlass Supreme production was:
Holiday Sedan 4239 --- 10,762
Holiday Coupe 4257 --- 68,309
convertible 4267 ------ 11,354

1970 model year F85 series cars were built in:
Lansing MI ---------- 150,083
Fremont CA ---------- 44,963
Linden NJ ------------ 58,595
Arlington TX ------------ 50
Framingham MA ----- 56,582

TOTAL --------------- 310,273 which adds July's production to the above 293,321 number

 

Per Hemmings: 4,867 Supreme Convertibles

 

the author of that Hemmings "story" is INCORRECT

 

Tom,
Is that your car in the article, or one that looks just like it?

 

You may be correct, but Hemmings isn't the only source for limited production in 1970 that I've seen over 5+ decades owning '70 Oldsmobiles. Original source data would be the only and most reliable. Is Hemmings wrong too about subsequent years production?

 

No.

 

This INCORRECT too?



https://www.conceptcarz.com/s5247/Ol...e-Cutlass.aspx

 

I don't see any 4,867 production quantities & 4867 is close to the Cutlass Supreme convertibles model number 4267 ?? but still don't see where it came from
oddly, the hardtop numbers listed show the convertible production numbers
**** the chassis ONLY production number + 1,000 missing from the total - a "typo" ??





Cutlass Supreme convertible production from "Setting The Pace"
1970 - 11,354
1971 - 10,255
1972 - 11,571

 

https://www.conceptcarz.com/s5247/Oldsmobile-Cutlass.aspx

 

I don't see any other source for the 4867 number (or in other 1970 Oldsmobile models) with the exception of conceptcarz or hemmings

 

I have used "classic car database" for confirmation or data on a model I have little or no information on (no source is infallible)
Classic Car Database, Specifications, Dealers, Parts and Services for Antique Cars, Classic Cars, Vintage Cars and Muscle Cars



I've also noticed the base price listed as $3335 VS. the $3325 on Hemmings? was there a $10 price increase before the January 1970 SPECS price list ?

 

Is the 11,354 "Convertible" a gross number that includes 442 & W-30 convertibles since those models were hi-performance of the Cutlass Supreme body?

There are other articles I've seen over the years that reference reduced production in '70, and the talk way back then (pre-internet of course) was same. Just like to have a definitive answer with breakdowns by model/type from reliable, original source data. Thanks.

 

Here is what the headers represent. I have this broken down for every option for 1970.

 

the first source picture of U15 production is OLDSMOBILE's OPTION production document from June 1970 - accuracy would be very HIGH
there are vintage annual yearbooks from "Automotive News" & "Ward's" - the automotive news of the day that have high accuracy
"Setting the Pace" is a well-researched & respected history of Oldsmobile's first 100 years

the UAW strike that affected all of GM including OLDSMOBILE was fall of 1970 and involved 1971 model year production

 

the GM Heritage center has info that has either been posted here or a link to obtain a "1970 info package", but here is the 1970 production page from "Setting The Pace"

 

The UAW strike that affected 1970 model year production began on September 24, 1969.

 

Thank you.

 

Chevelle & Monte Carlo bodies at FLINT ONLY - haven't you read any of the attached links?