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Old April 20th, 2016, 09:59 AM
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One of those joints has sufficient lube on it, lol.
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Based on the options list I found online, these are the options that the car has. I also included a full list of what came standard in the De Luxe package vs the basic sedan.

STANDARD ON THE DE LUXE sedan - Optional on the sedan:

Floor carpets
Foam padded front seat cushion
Foam padded rear seat cushion
Safety padded instrument panel
Chrome roof drip moldings
Chrome door window frames
Exterior bright moldings
Two speed windshield wipers
De Luxe steering wheel
De Luxe interior - Chrome plated rearview mirror bracket, De Luxe door and window handles, front door dome lamp switches, De Luxe armrests (front and rear)
Rocker panel and wheel opening moldings


OPTIONS THIS CAR HAS:

Front auxillary floor mats
Windshield washer
Hydra-Matic drive
15 inch wheels and tires (unknown if they were originally white or black sidewall)
De Luxe radio w/pushbutton tuning
Oil filter
Back up lamps
Roto-Matic power steering


THINGS I HAVE TO CHECK ON:

Anti-spin differential
3.36 mountain axle
3.08 expressway axle
Heavy duty air cleaner

Special duty Delcotron 52 Amp Alt


Special-duty engine cooling - NOPE thanks jensenracing77
Permanent anti-freeze (would have no way of knowing this)
Heavy-duty rear springs

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Old April 20th, 2016, 11:26 AM
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So for the heavy duty air cleaner, the housing is the same right? It just means that it came with a paper filter vs a foam one or something? Also, can anyone show me what the difference is on the regular alternator vs the 52 amp? The radiator also, regular vs special duty. Thanks.
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The Special duty cooling is the cross flow 4 core radiator like the Jetfire had. This one is the down flow.
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Originally Posted by jensenracing77 View Post
The Special duty cooling is the cross flow 4 core radiator like the Jetfire had. This one is the down flow.
Thanks. I was thinking no because the thickness of this radiator is about the same as a slice of toast.
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Old April 20th, 2016, 12:24 PM
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The back of the alternator looks like this 52 amp one on eBay, what was the other option for this car? Would the back of the case look exactly the same? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delco-Remy-N...-/321997282943
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I believe they all look the same, but the amp rating is normally stamped by the adjuster bolt.
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Old April 20th, 2016, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 66luvr View Post
I believe they all look the same, but the amp rating is normally stamped by the adjuster bolt.
Thanks. This is going to require a little cleaning and a hardhat so I don't hit my head on this hood again.
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Old April 20th, 2016, 06:18 PM
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After working on the car some again tonight, I've come to the conclusion that I just can't let this go right now. I will keep the info of those who are interested that contacted me here and via PM, but I'm sorry, I'm not sure when it will be for sale or if it will be.

The thing that keeps entering my mind is how long both of the cars have been in the family. And once I undo that then there's no turning back. That's the main reason I never started the official For Sale thread with pricing. I just wasn't sure about selling it, but now that I've had a chance to think about it...I just can't. Thanks for understanding.
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Old April 20th, 2016, 06:27 PM
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Ha ha.

That car's got you.

Like a stray puppy.

Sounds like you're doing the right thing.

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Old April 20th, 2016, 07:04 PM
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PM me if you want to purchase a 63 Cutlass cross flow radiator. I have one that's in excellent condition. Replaced it with a custom aluminum radiator on my 63.
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Old April 20th, 2016, 10:56 PM
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I wonder if that option list is the same as 62. My wagon is a deluxe but only has single speed wipers and no wheel arch moldings, has everything else though plus a few extra options I guess.
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Originally Posted by 1970-W30 View Post
PM me if you want to purchase a 63 Cutlass cross flow radiator. I have one that's in excellent condition. Replaced it with a custom aluminum radiator on my 63.
I may be interested if it'll fit a 62
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Old April 21st, 2016, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic View Post
Ha ha.

That car's got you.

Like a stray puppy.

Sounds like you're doing the right thing.

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Thanks. Cleaning it up some later today. Interested to see how the outside looks without all the dust and dirt.
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Old April 21st, 2016, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 1970-W30 View Post
PM me if you want to purchase a 63 Cutlass cross flow radiator. I have one that's in excellent condition. Replaced it with a custom aluminum radiator on my 63.
Thanks for the offer, but I plan on keeping what is in it. What was the reason you went to the aluminum?
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Old April 21st, 2016, 07:19 AM
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No problem, I'd already come to the conclusion that transport from NC to NY would make purchase unrealistic for a car this relatively common (4 dr) and good but not mint condition. A Jetfire or Cutlass coupe might be a different story. I have plenty to do with my '58 Super 88 as it is, and as mentioned above, hanging on to a 1 family car is always a good thing.
Have fun with it!
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Old April 21st, 2016, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by holidaysedan View Post
No problem, I'd already come to the conclusion that transport from NC to NY would make purchase unrealistic for a car this relatively common (4 dr) and good but not mint condition. A Jetfire or Cutlass coupe might be a different story. I have plenty to do with my '58 Super 88 as it is, and as mentioned above, hanging on to a 1 family car is always a good thing.
Have fun with it!
Thanks! Not sure how common they are today because I definitely haven't seen many...actually any, but I know what you are saying...4 doors generally have less interest vs the 2 doors. But at least the doors are lighter!
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All washed up. Looking good now.








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Old April 21st, 2016, 09:46 PM
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That thing is nice
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Old April 22nd, 2016, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by young olds View Post
That thing is nice
Thanks, yeah when I'm 50+ years old I hope I look as good as this.
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I don't care if it is a four door, Just to see it in that condition and be 53 years old is amazing. Nice car enjoy it. I wish mine was that pretty.
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Old April 22nd, 2016, 07:33 AM
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I think the 15 inch wheels really add to the look. Makes it look bad...in a good way. A little bouncy in the rear though. What's the test to figure out if it needs new shocks, or were these cars just this way?
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Where can I get type A transmission fluid or can I use a Dexron variant? Power steering is at low on the stick. Here are some additional pics from this evening's activity:




















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Dang if my 63 was half that nice it would still be around (in one piece)
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Dang if my 63 was half that nice it would still be around (in one piece)
Thanks for the nice comment. Yes, I imagine that most F-85s that were even 15 years old wouldn't even look as good as this one. I'm not finished with it yet, but I'm finished with the pics because I really showed about everything I could. Well maybe if something mechanical comes along...

Did the same thing with the title this time, asking for the old one back. Hopefully Raleigh will send it because the lady at the DMV forgot to give me a copy and I didn't think of it until I was gone.
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If anyone has a clue on the rear shocks, please let me know. I've been unable to find any except for the spiral shock repros. $$$
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If anyone has a clue on the rear shocks, please let me know. I've been unable to find any except for the spiral shock repros. $$$


Here is a supplier for Sachs shocks. I am uncertain of the quality/ reputation
http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/196..._absorber.html
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If anyone has a clue on the rear shocks, please let me know. I've been unable to find any except for the spiral shock repros. $$$
Kanter sells no-name gas shocks for these cars.
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Thanks guys, these are two websites I haven't been to yet. Checking them out!
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NOS shocks also show up on ebay periodically. I've scored two sets that way, along with Koni front shocks.
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I think those are the same ones Kanter sells for $50 - EACH!
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"Modern" gas charged shocks like those should give you WAY better performance than the originals did.

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Thats a sharp car! Congrats I think the 4 door cars
are starting to get noticed.

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Originally Posted by MDchanic View Post
"Modern" gas charged shocks like those should give you WAY better performance than the originals did.

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Well just pulling it into the driveway off the trailer, it seemed to lean a little in the rear. I'm not sure what to expect on the feel of these, but I haven't got it out on the road yet because I'm awaiting a license plate. Something tells me my garden tractor will absorb bumps better.

Speaking of getting this on the road, I need to get the DOT codes on the tires posted so I can determine if my 4 mile round trip 35 mph runs in this are going to be even remotely safe. I'm thinking they will be fine, but I don't know how old they are.
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Speaking of getting this on the road, I need to get the DOT codes on the tires posted so I can determine if my 4 mile round trip 35 mph runs in this are going to be even remotely safe. I'm thinking they will be fine, but I don't know how old they are.
If they are good turn them over and run with the wsw. Any chance you can make it to Hardee's In Stanley on Friday night? Cruise in starts at 5pm. Weather cooperation will draw 100+ cars.
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If they are good turn them over and run with the wsw. Any chance you can make it to Hardee's In Stanley on Friday night? Cruise in starts at 5pm. Weather cooperation will draw 100+ cars.
How often do they have this there? Might not be able to make it this weekend, but could do another weekend.
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These are what I have on our Jetfire. They work fine.
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Tire codes are ACUL 2A1097
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