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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 04:07 PM
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How to get to gauge lights

My speedo light is out on my 69 olds cutlass.How do i gain access to change the bulb out?? I would like to go ahead and replace all the bulbs while im in there......
Old Jan 10, 2011 | 07:34 PM
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You have to go in from the back of the dash. So if you have extra joints in your arm... and your hand is very small... it will be a piece of cake! To pull the pods out you would still need to go in from the back and remove two small screws. Somewhere I've got a picture of the back side of a 1968-69 dash. If I can come up with it I'll post it so you can see what it looks like back there. John
Old Jan 10, 2011 | 07:47 PM
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Seat all the way back, tilt wheel, if equipped, all the way up, remove the air vent tube below the dash to gain access. You should be able to see the back of the gauge, turn the bulb holder counterclockwise and it should come out pretty easy. Hope that helps.
Old Jan 10, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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Here's my .02

I just put 194 SMT LED's in there to IMPROVE the illumination.
Either www.superbrightleds.com or Ebay for $2 a pop.
Regular incandescents just didn't work for me anymore.

One of the members here did an excellent write up on removing your gauges,
cleaning them, and restoring the reflective paint in them. The end result was
unbelievable with minimal wallet bleeding.

Here it is. https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...rally-pac.html
I still want to do this myself to get EVEN MORE improvement.
Her end result is just amazing.


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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 09:45 PM
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Here's a couple pictures of the back of the gauges. This has the speedo head removed. But to take out a pod you have to remove the two small screws at about 4:00 and 8:00 O'clock. I believe the bulbs take about a quarter turn to remove, so if you can reach them it would be best to try and change them without removing the pods. In the top picture you can see one blue, two black and three grey round pieces, these are the back of the blub sockets. John

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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 03:55 AM
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Just curious, what's the significance, if any, of the different color sockets? I'm assuming they're interchangeable...thanks.
Old Jan 11, 2011 | 04:33 AM
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Same socket style bulbs, but they have different watt ratings.

161, 168, 194 - Clocks have a different bulb in them.
194_Bulb.jpg&t=1

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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 05:23 AM
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Light blue sockets carry the 168 (3cp)
Gray sockets carry the 194 (2cp)
Black sockets carry the 161 (1cp)

Be careful with those lt.blue sockets as they easily crumble into nothingness due to the heat generated by the 168 bulb.
Old Jan 11, 2011 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Aceshigh
One of the members here did an excellent write up on removing your gauges,
cleaning them, and restoring the reflective paint in them. The end result was
unbelievable with minimal wallet bleeding.

Here it is. https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...rally-pac.html
I still want to do this myself to get EVEN MORE improvement.
Her end result is just amazing.

And keep in mind the above picture is with stock incandescent bulbs - not LEDs. The model paint cost about 3 bucks.

If the disassembly and repainting is too much work, then the higher brightness LED lights may be just the trick.

Originally Posted by scott_442
Just curious, what's the significance, if any, of the different color sockets? I'm assuming they're interchangeable...thanks.
I think the colored sockets might have helped the factory workers get the right wattage bulb in the right place. They interchange just fine.
Typically i like the brighter 168 bulbs in locations that need to be seen during the day, like the idiot lights and turn signal arrows. If you restore the reflective paint, 194's will usually be sufficient. However, consult the owner's or service manual for the right bulb.
Clocks use the 1445 during that year I think...
Old Jan 11, 2011 | 04:00 PM
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awesome thanks for all the pics and info.Anyone tried different colored bulbs? Im thinking blue leds to match the blue cd player im installing...anyone got some pics of that??
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