Wiring accessories to key on position?

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Old Apr 12, 2018 | 12:53 PM
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Wiring accessories to key on position?

I’ve dreaded asking this for some time now as it’s complete newbie question - but - I want to wire up a usb in place of my cigar lighter in a 72 convertible - I am also interested in going to HEI distributor - BUT! - this apparently is so easy a job that every you tube video and post I can find simply “yada yada’s” over the details - they simply say “just wire it to the key on position” my radio is currently a wire wrapped around the end of the glass fuse 🙁 - any good links on a detailed correct way to wire accessories into a 72 GM a body? I have simply just never learned how to do this correctly and neatly - any advise would be greatly appreciated - thanks in advance ~ Joe

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Old Apr 12, 2018 | 01:15 PM
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In the center of the fuse box is a terminal marked IGN which is a switched 12 Volt source. Put a female spade terminal on the HEI battery + wire and connect it there.

For your radio power, there's that switched IGN terminal and a constant power BAT terminal in the center of the fuse box, depending upon which one you need.

If you need to power two things off one of those terminals, use one of these:


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Old Apr 12, 2018 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Fun71
In the center of the fuse box is a terminal marked IGN which is a switched 12 Volt source. Put a female spade terminal on the HEI battery + wire and connect it there.

For your radio power, there's that switched IGN terminal and a constant power BAT terminal in the center of the fuse box, depending upon which one you need.

If you need to power two things off one of those terminals, use one of these:

accy = ignition? And not sure that spade will fit my situation (72 cutlass)
Old Apr 12, 2018 | 02:01 PM
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N/m I see that the plug under it is ignition - In my pic does my battery terminal look correct? That spade will plug into that to wire battery direct? And just split the ignition for hei and lighter?
Old Apr 12, 2018 | 02:19 PM
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I believe if you pull the grey connector off of that terminal, you will be able to put an adapter on it and re-attach the grey one and add one more. There are a couple of styles of adapters, I like this style: https://www.digikey.com/product-deta...8-1-ND/1131814

There are also these which let you tap off of any fuse in the box: https://www.waytekwire.com/products/1495/Fuse-Holders/

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Old Apr 12, 2018 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RandyS
I believe if you pull the grey connector off of that terminal, you will be able to put an adapter on it and re-attach the grey one and add one more. There are a couple of styles of adapters, I like this style: https://www.digikey.com/product-deta...8-1-ND/1131814

There are also these which let you tap off of any fuse in the box: https://www.waytekwire.com/products/1495/Fuse-Holders/
very cool - I will check it out second I am able - I can immediately think of severa things I’d like to run off of this - hei, lighter, electric fuel pump, maybe electric fan? Is there a limit to jumps? Is this where I would run the lead to an “add on” fuse panel if I wanted? Do I put a fuse in the wire somewhere for this? (Sorry for all the questions) thanks! ~ Joe
Old Apr 12, 2018 | 03:21 PM
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I installed a USB charging port where the cig lighter was-has a blue LED light for 64 F-85 Pro-Touring build. Have not tried it out yet. I wired this and a bunch of new accessories to a Painless 7 Circuit boss and did not use the original fuse panel.
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Old Apr 12, 2018 | 03:27 PM
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Especially if your going to think about electric fans, amplifiers, A/C etc. Just my thinking.
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Old Apr 12, 2018 | 03:57 PM
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I would have to agree with what Rob posted. You can tap a little bit from your existing fuse panel (HEI, Aftermarket Radio), but for fans, big amplifiers and such, I would recommend an add-on fuse panel. The add-on can be in the engine bay, like Rob's, or under the dash near the existing one, your choice. Google adding a fuse panel to your existing electrical system.

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Old Apr 12, 2018 | 04:33 PM
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Thanks Rob! Thanks Randy! I think this is exactly what I was looking for - plus I still like the idea of cleaning up my original under dash fuse box - got some work to do!
Old Apr 12, 2018 | 05:29 PM
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The 54 year old fuse box and old wiring is still "good" maybe okay? Its nice to have the new 7-circuit boss to take the load off the old fuse box with the added new accessories. So far its wired to the new Old Air Products A/C system, blower motor for the A/C, Flex-A Lite dual Electric fans, 300 watt Sound Stream amp, a marine head unit mounted in the glove box to drive the sound-set up to stream Pandora etc. from my I phone. I-phone needs more juice plug in in the USB port! When I get this buggy on the road its our RV! for the road cruises.
Old Apr 12, 2018 | 05:39 PM
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Few more pictures for you to get you thinking!!..(Olds) 80's Rubicon Sound stream amp bought on Evil-Bay in the original factory shipping box-$90.00 dollars, 5 years ago. Buddy built the boom box with high powered 6X9 speakers for my for my BD.
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Old Apr 13, 2018 | 05:02 AM
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I’m miles away from a decent sound system 😜 - gotta get her moving reliably and safely first - then she needs to get pretty again - but I will probably be picking your brain down the road - I love the idea of the Bluetooth stereo with my iPhone as player - I want to mount an original radio in dash with working lights then hide the Bluetooth set up - i bought the same “blue light” usb cigar charger replacement you have - did you say it has enough power to charge your iPhone? I am going to use your idea of the 7 fuse add on - SOooo much to do - so little time 😩 - mine too will be my rv someday!

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Old Apr 13, 2018 | 05:06 AM
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Rob I just looked up a pic of your car on one of your older post - that off set stripe is HOT! What a beauty!
Old Apr 14, 2018 | 07:57 AM
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The off-set stripe actually came from dimensions posted somewhere in this Club or Real Olds Power. It was a dealer add-back in 65. My body shop took the dimension's and painted it on, running the strip into the metal part of the dash and out through rear metal window frame area onto the rear deck. The 65 dealer add on was most likely vinyl. I had a plastic OEM very looking radio delete plate for the dash to replace the radio.
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Old Apr 14, 2018 | 08:13 AM
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When the time comes to "adding" the goodies, you may think about alternator output. I currently have a 100 amp Power Master alternator. I have not had the car in the street so we will how it goes with all the accessories are on at idle in 100 degree Texas summers. May have to upgrade. And I still need to make or buy a heavier gauge wire from the alternator to the starter. 100 amp alternators should use an 8 gauge wire, I think if I need to move up to a say 130-150 amp I would use a 6 gauge wire. Currently when I had M@H Electric make me a new under hood harness for the HEI, they used stock specs for the alternator wire to the starter.
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