65 starfire

hi , was wondering if anyone new where i could get a relay that fits on the d/s side ,right to the left of the headlight swtch, it is for the power seats and the power windows together i think, have looked every where ,no luck,can i just by pass this relay ,or do i really need it, 65 olds starfire , thanks will.

rocketraider

You need it. It's there so when you operate a high current draw power accessory, the relay will energize and run the component straight off the battery or alternator instead of thru the fuse block. PW and PS motors draw a lot of amps, is why the circuit also incorporates that 40a circuit breaker underhood near the junction block.

If I'm reading the parts book right (and it's kinda vague on applications here) you need a grp 13.095, p/n 4497000 relay, window &/or seat 1965-68 4 or 6 way seat exc F85 or Toro. And those years are all that one lists for. I expect Buick and Cadillac also use it, maybe Pontiac but those aren't equipped with that stuff as often as B-Cad.

There's another application listed for 66-67 5400 series (Starfire/Delta Custom) and some Cutlasses w/ 4-way bucket seat; 13.095 p/n 5717528, relay, driver's adjuster motor. That one is common as dirt from 1964 on up thru 1976, in case you have to junkyard for one.

Have the windows and seat quit completely? and you know the C/B and master switches are good?

65 starfire

hi, yup they were not working when got the car, i tested all i could before i took it apart, the water had leaked in and rusted the relay pretty bad , i tested seat motors ,they worked ,tested power window motors ,they all were shot,got to find new ones ,they are the ones with the worm gear, was leaking under the bottom of the winshield, rusted there ,but rest of body is very good,there may be mor damage up under the dash , hope not ,i will go to the olds dealer with the info you gave me , thanks very much,will.

ozoneblue

Check with NAPA see if they can cross over in Echlin accessory relays

Olds64

You might also check out Radio shack to see if they can get you a generic electric relay with the same ratings as the factory one. It wouldn't be the same externally but an electical part like a relay is the same no matter how it looks.