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Not to be a buster, Craftsman, but...

What devices?

What picture?

- Eric

 

It's todays mystery, where are the plugs and more importantly the pic's???

 

I can't answer your original question, however, I can tell you that when you damn the people that do answer your questions, you are not going to ever get another response from them. You might consider the answers stupid, but then the person that was responding might consider your questions stupid.
I have never had any problems getting paint mixed for anything old, and my cars ranged from a 1926 Buick to a 1978 Cadillac. Asking a paint shop doesn't tell me much. It might be a place that paints cars, or it might be a place that mixes paint. I go the the places that mix the paint for the body shops, and I have never had one of them tell me that they couldn't mix me a paint color that I needed. All I had to do was supply them with a sample of the color and they did the rest.
I am an old guy, and if you think that all "old guys" are the same, then you are sadly mistaken. I was around when almost all the cars discussed on these forums were first manufactured.

 

Into the unknown - Underhood restoration!check this thread,some great pics there that should help.

 

The pic on your right is the heater water control valve!

The other picture shows a blower control relay and I believe an a/c clutch control relay!

Here's a link to a previous discussion!

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...ay-wiring.html

On the paint thing you can take your car over to any autobody paint supplier and they not only can tell you the color but also mix the paint!

 

First of all, Craftsman, the old computer saying applies:
"Garbage in, garbage out."

You supplied one photo of a heater valve that has no place for wires to be connected (not your actual heater valve... or was it?), then asked about the wires connected to it, and you supplied one blurry picture that shows two relays, with no way to see what shape they are, what color wires are attached to them, or what their terminal patterns look like. Your exact question was, "the wire that plugs into the heater control valve was pulled out from where it comes from," which I still don't completely understand because 1. there are two wires, and you don't specify which one, and 2. you don't explain what you mean by "pulled out," and "where it comes from" - Is the Packard 56 terminal pulled out of its plastic plug? Is the wire pilled out of the metal terminal? Is it broken? Where does it "come from?" Is it only a few inches long? Is it a length of coiled wire with no apparent connection to anything? Are there any plugs or terminals attached? Your question is unanswerable, and I'm not surprised you were unable to get and answer that wasn't "stupid," like this one no doubt is.

The identities of the actual relays can be easily determined by looking at the schematic diagrams in your Chassis Service Manual, which shows wire colors and pin patterns for all of these. It might have been better if you had checked the book first, and then asked something like, "My cold-air relay is hanging by a zip tie, as you can see in the picture - could anybody tell me where it is supposed to be attached?" rather than just saying "Help me, Mommy."

A look at your Chassis Service Manual would also tell you that the black or green-black wires from the temperature sensor in the heater control valve go to the cold air relay, and then to the wiring for the blower fan. If you in fact have the aftermarket heater control valve pictured, then there is nowhere for them to go. If you have the "right" valve, then the sensor screws into the valve, and the wires plug into the sensor, so that the low speed of the blower can be automatically disabled if the engine temperature is below about 40°F.

Personally, I did not answer you for a simple reason: The last Cutlass I had was a 1970, and it was 20 years ago, and I have no idea where that stuff goes. In describing its function, I am relying on what I know about similar year B-bodies, so that may be wrong, too. I'm not currently inclined to scour my 1972 CSM to get you information that you could find for yourself.

I've never had trouble getting paint matched either.

- Eric

 

Those look like rear defogger relays. Does your car have this option?
It looks like there are two screw holes above the vacuum tank, where a defog relay would bolt.
The second one would mount to the firewall below the water valve.

I do not recall any of the 72 Cutlii having a wiring connector in the water valve.

 

Which is also entirely possible.

I believe the function of at least one of the defroster relays was to lock out simultaneous High Fan on both the rear Defrost and the front Heat / A/C fans, as the alternator couldn't handle the drain.

- Eric

 

I'm sorry, but I'm still confused, which is the point I was trying to make - it's hard to answer a question if you don't understand it.

I believe that you're saying that your A/C harness became unwrapped at some point in the life of the car, and that you are not sure how many inches along the harness to wrap in the wires from the temperature switch.
I definitely can't answer that, but perhaps someone else can confirm the information you've already got on it.

And, to make my point, you appear to have gotten good information from an actual person who has actual experience with the exact car that you have - the reason is that you were able to make your question absolutely clear in person, and he was able to do the same with his answer. This can be harder than it might first appear to be on an internet discussion board such as this one, as we have seen, and often people will just pass by a confusing post, rather than try to get a clarification, because it can end up in convoluted discussions such as this one.

I wouldn't blame the members of this board for not providing the answer you wanted as quickly as you wanted it.

- Eric

 

I see from your profile that you are in Wisconsin. I find it hard to believe that you can't get paint mixed to a specific color in your state. They might not have the formulas in the store where they mix the paint, but that is why every paint manufacturer has a department that deals with this specifically. The paint store call the manufacturer, and they give them the paint mixing codes. I just had paint mixed for my 1962 Chevy. They had to call to get the exact specs that were faxed to them. The paint was mixed, and then the paint was sprayed out onto a piece of paper with a 1/2" hole in the center. Place on the car, and it didn't match exactly. They then added the additional materials to get the color right. This is where the expertise of the paint person comes into play. He knew exactly what had to be added to get the color match. It took 2 additional tries, but it is perfect now. If you are painting the whole car, then it isn't as critical to get the exact match, just to get enough paint so you have some left over for future use.
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