Key Buzzer warning switch
December 2nd, 2011, 09:22 PM
#41
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Wow - the quest for the "Holy rasp" continues...
Those switch setups ARE pretty delicate. I would try magnetizing a thin metal rod to try to remove the lost clips. Also, maybe have a magnet near the clip so it can be caught before running for the hole again. Or somehow plug the hole first?
Might almost be time for the "Holy hand grenade"...
Those switch setups ARE pretty delicate. I would try magnetizing a thin metal rod to try to remove the lost clips. Also, maybe have a magnet near the clip so it can be caught before running for the hole again. Or somehow plug the hole first?
Might almost be time for the "Holy hand grenade"...
December 5th, 2011, 12:41 PM
#42
Well I concede defeat....for now. I figured out my problem. Two contacts on the back of the signal switch. One Pink (horn relay), one Black (ground). If I ground the pink wire I get the buzzer so Pink is 'looking' for ground. But when I jump the Black (ground) wire to the Pink, nothing. That tells me that the Black (ground) wire has 'lost' ground somewhere from there to the harmonica connector at the base of the column or possibly somewhere else. If I run a dedicated ground and manually close the buzzer switch with my thumb it works normally. However a dedicated ground by-passes the door switch and ignition switches and would buzz anytime the key is in regardless of position of it or the door. So, if I ever need to replace my signal switch or remove the A/C ductwork under the column (or both) then I'll look for the bad wire. Until then I guess I'll live without the buzzer.
December 5th, 2011, 01:22 PM
#43
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I might be reading the wrong thing into this, but if you jumped the pink wire to ground and got the buzzer, but nothing from the black, is it possible you might just have a bad ground connection in the switch itself?
I find it hard to believe the connection is bad in the wiring to the harmonica plug. Suggestion? pull the harmonica plug anyway and check the contacts for corrosion.
December 5th, 2011, 01:54 PM
#44
Tha Black (ground) wire doesn't really go in thru the signal switch it just is laid against the backside of it and attached to it with a blade connector so I can visually see the whole wire so I'm just assuming the problem is at some other connection. It could even be a broken wire in the left front door jamb/base of column/etc. As much as I like the 'buzz' it's really not worth digging any further unless I have to for some reason.
December 6th, 2011, 01:21 PM
#46
Wel,l rather than tear the dash and harness apart to look for the bad ground I just ran a dedicated ground to the signal switch for the key buzzer and now everything works normally. The only problem is by bypassing the door jamb switch it will buzz anytime the key is in (and off) regardless of the door position but it does go off when in the 'run' position so I guess I can live with that for now.
December 6th, 2011, 02:24 PM
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You are insane, man.
Stark, staring mad.
To each his own, though...
... Just don't be skulking around my yard trying to fix MY ignition key buzzer - the only thing I want to hear out of it is silence.
- Eric
Stark, staring mad.
To each his own, though...
... Just don't be skulking around my yard trying to fix MY ignition key buzzer - the only thing I want to hear out of it is silence.
- Eric
December 6th, 2011, 02:29 PM
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WIIILLLLMMMAAAA!!!! Bam Bam Bam Bam!!
December 7th, 2011, 05:10 AM
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December 7th, 2011, 09:20 AM
#51
Well after a sleepness night (not happy with the 'band-aid' fix) I've begun to pull it all back apart and remove my ground and fix it the right way. I've pulled the lower dash and accessed the 'harmonica' connector. Now I can see if the 'open' is on the signal switch side or door jamb switch side and repair it accordingly - the correct way. It's a good thing I don't have anything else to do in my life. 
December 9th, 2011, 02:20 PM
#55
FIXED! After I accessed the 'harmonica' connector, I unplugged it to check for continuity and found the ground wire from the door jamb switch into the connector (body harness side) not fully 'clipped' into connector. To look at it visually it looked fine but when connecting it, it was pushing back and not contacting blade connector. Chaulk this up to how NOT to throw parts at something (like I did) and go back to basics and make the effort to properly diagnose something! My father always said, "There's never time to do it right, but there's always time to do it over!" All's well that ends well, I say. Now everything works as advertised and that "AAAAAANNNNNNN" brings a smile to my face every time.
December 9th, 2011, 07:53 PM
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December 9th, 2011, 08:31 PM
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Did I ever tell you about the time I was driving along on a warm day, minding my own business, enjoying the breeze through the window, when I felt something tap against my chest, and seconds later, I felt, well...
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Perhaps that formative experience partially explains the strength of my feelings...
- Eric
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