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Old Oct 5, 2018 | 05:58 PM
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Hey can anyone tell me what the difference is between the Automatic distributor 1111979 and the manual transmission distributor 1111977?
Old Oct 6, 2018 | 10:49 AM
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I have not looked at specs, but it is likely different initial advance setting and different mechanical advance curves. The weights and center bar may be different but all the other parts should be the same.
Old Oct 6, 2018 | 02:42 PM
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I wa lucky to find one yesterday at Carlisle but since my car is automatic not sure if I wanna use it
Old Oct 6, 2018 | 07:37 PM
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I looked up the specs for the distributors. I don't see any problem with using it with your engine. The advance is less aggressive, just make sure the total advance is correct (let the initial be whatever it ends up being) and you should be OK.

Distributor.....Advance Starts.............Full Advance
1111977.......0.4-2.4 @ 500RPM.......12 @ 2000
1111979.......0-3.5 @ 575 RPM.........16 @ 1500.

Vacuum advance specs are identical for the two:
10-13" vacuum to start plunger; maximum advance = 12.8º @ 25" vacuum

All of the above are in distributor degrees, so multiply x2 for crank degrees.
Old Oct 6, 2018 | 07:58 PM
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I looked up the specs for the distributors. I don't see any problem with using it with your engine. The advance is less aggressive, just make sure the total advance is correct (let the initial be whatever it ends up being) and you should be OK.

Distributor.....Advance Starts.............Full Advance
1111977.......0.4-2.4 @ 500RPM.......12 @ 2000
1111979.......0-3.5 @ 575 RPM.........16 @ 1500.

Vacuum advance specs are identical for the two:
10-13" vacuum to start plunger; maximum advance = 12.8º @ 25" vacuum

All of the above are in distributor degrees, so multiply x2 for crank degrees.
Thank you
im having spark knock problem in the car but not sure if there is not more then a distributor timing order .
I’m not sure the original owner even has it in correctly, the advance is all the way in the back and number one is in the back on the right side of center. Talked to a person today and his is in the front and points window is in the back. Got this distributor to try and see if it changes anything
Old Oct 6, 2018 | 08:47 PM
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It doesn't really matter where the plug wires are or where the advance can is, as long as the rotor is indexed so it points to #1 at TDC.
If you have not checked the timing with a light (initial and full mechanical advance), you should do that before anything else.

Points window in the back? Does he have enough room to adjust the points?
Old Oct 7, 2018 | 05:05 AM
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It doesn't really matter where the plug wires are or where the advance can is, as long as the rotor is indexed so it points to #1 at TDC.
If you have not checked the timing with a light (initial and full mechanical advance), you should do that before anything else.

Points window in the back? Does he have enough room to adjust the points?
i really don’t know , talking with him didn’t sound like he did much work on his own car. Not a whole lot of room in the back so not sure how they could adjust them
Old Oct 8, 2018 | 03:47 AM
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Before checking the timing check the dwell. Particularly if the window is inaccessible, could be the points were gapped but the dwell wasn't checked. It's fair to say if the points gap is right the dwell should also be correct, but always verify.

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Old Oct 8, 2018 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rustyroger
Before checking the timing check the dwell. Particularly if the window is inaccessible, could be the points were gapped but the dwell wasn't checked. It's fair to say if the points gap is right the dwell should also be correct, but always verify.

Roger.
thank you sir
I dug and found my tach and dwell, just been 30 plus years since I’ve used it 😁
Not sure what the prior owner did or his mechanical capabilities so it’s hard to tell
Old Oct 17, 2018 | 07:29 AM
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The automatic distributor should be less likely to ping. It also has more of a "dud" advance curve offering lesser performance.
If you have an issue with pinging, its likely that the advance springs are worn and stretched, allowing too much timing too fast. Most aftermarket recurve kits offer up even lighter springs, and weights that don't fit right so the problem wouldn't necessarily go away. You can try to find someone to rebuild/recurve the distributor for how your engine is currently set up, which typically runs around $200.
www.advanceddistributors.com is one place I know well. ;-)
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