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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 12:15 AM
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alt. for 425 toro

I have no idea what to purchase .10si,12si ,cs144 --just numbers/figures to me .
Your help woill be hugely appreciated
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by geckonz08
I have no idea what to purchase .10si,12si ,cs144 --just numbers/figures to me .
Your help woill be hugely appreciated
tx mike
Are you looking for a stock replacement, or an upgrade? A stock replacement would be an externally regulated unit. Any of the ones you've listed are internally regulated, which requires rewiring to bypass your current external regulator.
Old Nov 12, 2010 | 02:10 PM
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Do you have a core that could be rebuilt down there? If you do that might be the simplest way to go. I have a number of core alternators and I'm sure there's others on this site who do as well if you need a core. Or if you want to just purchase one already rebuilt I just checked rockauto.com and they list two brands for a 1967 Toronado that are both around $60-70 without a core. I don't know what shipping would run, but hopefully that wouldn't add too much more to the price. John
Old Nov 12, 2010 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Are you looking for a stock replacement, or an upgrade? A stock replacement would be an externally regulated unit. Any of the ones you've listed are internally regulated, which requires rewiring to bypass your current external regulator.
Joe,sorry,
I should have mentioned the 425 is going into my 86 cad.brougham.I am not after any specific stock / non stock .Jst an alternator which fits and has 100a or so capacity .The 307 currently in situ . has an internal regulator
tx mike
Old Nov 12, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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I used to have a 1979 Toronado and it had a 403 engine with a 100 amp alternator on it. If you have the correct alternator bracket rockauto has either an 80 or 100 amp rebuilt units for just over $100

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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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Mike
Do you have a core that could be rebuilt down there? If you do that might be the simplest way to go. I have a number of core alternators and I'm sure there's others on this site who do as well if you need a core. Or if you want to just purchase one already rebuilt I just checked rockauto.com and they list two brands for a 1967 Toronado that are both around $60-70 without a core. I don't know what shipping would run, but hopefully that wouldn't add too much more to the price. John

Think I should be going for an internal reg. -maybe I could steal the 307 alternator ??That I am lead to believe is 94A
Any core around here would relate to the centre of an apple
mike

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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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Oh. If you've already got a working alternator with an appropriate power rating that you're willing to use, just bolt it on.

Variations are pulley size / offset / number of sheaves,
and orientation of connections to mounting holes.

If it's got a different pulley, you can swap for the right one.

If the connections (located on the back half) aren't where you want them when it's mounted (with mounting holes located on the front half) you can remove the four small, long case screws, rotate the halves with respect to one-another to where you want them, and reinstall the screws.

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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic
Oh. If you've already got a working alternator with an appropriate power rating that you're willing to use, just bolt it on.

Variations are pulley size / offset / number of sheaves,
and orientation of connections to mounting holes.

If it's got a different pulley, you can swap for the right one.

If the connections (located on the back half) aren't where you want them when it's mounted (with mounting holes located on the front half) you can remove the four small, long case screws, rotate the halves with respect to one-another to where you want them, and reinstall the screws.

- Eric
Tx Eric--sounds like that is the most sensible,likely-to-work option
mike
Old Nov 13, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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Oh. If you've already got a working alternator with an appropriate power rating that you're willing to use, just bolt it on.
X2. The stock alternator in that car is a 10SI already. In fact, you will want to use the PS pump brackets from the 307 anyway. The 307 alternator bracket bolts to the BBO with just the addition of a spacer between the alternator bracket and the PS pump bracket. You can even use the 307 A/C bracket if you weld two tabs onto the bottom of the bracket so it reaches the two bottom holes on the block.

Your Caddy should use the metal engine-side brackets and the rubber clamshell motor mounts bolted to the frame. The metal brackets bolt directly to the 425. Of course you'll need W/Z exhaust manifolds. Don't waste your time with the 307 manifolds.
Old Nov 13, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
X2. The stock alternator in that car is a 10SI already. In fact, you will want to use the PS pump brackets from the 307 anyway. The 307 alternator bracket bolts to the BBO with just the addition of a spacer between the alternator bracket and the PS pump bracket. You can even use the 307 A/C bracket if you weld two tabs onto the bottom of the bracket so it reaches the two bottom holes on the block.

Your Caddy should use the metal engine-side brackets and the rubber clamshell motor mounts bolted to the frame. The metal brackets bolt directly to the 425. Of course you'll need W/Z exhaust manifolds. Don't waste your time with the 307 manifolds.
tx joe,
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