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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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No, SSIII (body color wheels) were not an option in 1970, not until 1971.
Not an OPTION, but definitely available in 1970. They were mandatory on the Rallye 350 and the Y74 Pace Cars in 1970. Of course, they WEREN'T called SSIII that year.
Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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here's a recent picture of the car. Rally Red??
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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Looks right (and good!) to me!!
Old Oct 6, 2009 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by nick77
here's a recent picture of the car. Rally Red??
You can see the red progress to rallye red ...

I am going to repaint just a shade redder and with red over red the paint will go alive right around sunset ...

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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by nick77
here's a recent picture of the car. Rally Red??
You can see the red progress to rallye red ...

I am going to repaint just a shade redder and with red over red the paint will go alive right around sunset ...

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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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I think that your color is a bit light and a bit orange ...

What was the name of your color I wound up with "Hemi Orange" 'cause they didn't stock rallye red as it would be a duplicate ...

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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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The color of the car now is ??????? as this is its #2 paint job following the original. I don't know if they tried to custom match or if they used some type of stocked color. How recent was your 442 painted? Anyway I have attached another pic.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mugzilla
I think that your color is a bit light and a bit orange ...

What was the name of your color I wound up with "Hemi Orange" 'cause they didn't stock rallye red as it would be a duplicate ...
Originally Posted by nick77
The color of the car now is ??????? as this is its #2 paint job following the original. I don't know if they tried to custom match or if they used some type of stocked color. How recent was your 442 painted? Anyway I have attached another pic.
Please do *not* make any more than casual judgments of what you see on a computer screen (regardless of how high tech the cumputer/monitor). There are too many variables that can alter the color from what it is to what you see.
Never rely on it.
Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by wmachine
Please do *not* make any more than casual judgments of what you see on a computer screen (regardless of how high tech the cumputer/monitor). There are too many variables that can alter the color from what it is to what you see.
Never rely on it.
I agree there are many variables as can be seen from just my pics, different angles, different light etc. Gotta trust the numbers. I sure wouldn't print out a pic and try to match paint .
Old Oct 7, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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What is red?

Originally Posted by wmachine
Please do *not* make any more than casual judgments of what you see on a computer screen (regardless of how high tech the cumputer/monitor). There are too many variables that can alter the color from what it is to what you see.
Never rely on it.
Well said Kurt,
One of my 72's was Matador Red, yet in some light it looked quite dark and others it appeared to "pulsate" an orangish red. (The color of pigments used to make these paints includes blue, yellow, green, black, white and brown if I remember my paint code correctly. You are so right! I've taken exactly the same picture vued under different color settings to make the point. That could easily happen on a computer depending on your settings. To really appreciate a color, you've got to see it with your own eyes. Even though we all know the car never changed, the pictures do show variations on what would be "red".

DSC03052.jpg?t=1254938166Up1level.jpg?t=1254938126
This is the original picture I took from the thread .................................................. ..............................which I altered by making the contrast and tone lighter. There is nothing in the background that you can use as a benchmark for a color guide, not even the sky or skin tones because they can vary in hue as well. And, depending on how your camera or any filters used, what you see is not always what you get.

Up1level-1.jpg?t=1254938326

There you have it.....3 different colors of red. Which one is right, really? Yes, your computer and your eyes can play tricks on you. I think what I've put in these pics is what Kurt is trying to say in words, and I agree with him.
Old Oct 7, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Allan R
Well said Kurt,
One of my 72's was Matador Red, yet in some light it looked quite dark and others it appeared to "pulsate" an orangish red. (The color of pigments used to make these paints includes blue, yellow, green, black, white and brown if I remember my paint code correctly. You are so right! I've taken exactly the same picture vued under different color settings to make the point. That could easily happen on a computer depending on your settings. To really appreciate a color, you've got to see it with your own eyes. Even though we all know the car never changed, the pictures do show variations on what would be "red".


This is the original picture I took from the thread .................................................. ..............................which I altered by making the contrast and tone lighter. There is nothing in the background that you can use as a benchmark for a color guide, not even the sky or skin tones because they can vary in hue as well. And, depending on how your camera or any filters used, what you see is not always what you get.



There you have it.....3 different colors of red. Which one is right, really? Yes, your computer and your eyes can play tricks on you. I think what I've put in these pics is what Kurt is trying to say in words, and I agree with him.
3 pictures are worth 3 million words............thank for the illustrations, Allan!
Old Oct 9, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by nick77
here's a recent picture of the car. Rally Red??
Your car is a perfect Rally Red color. Rally Red is code 73, which is just one shade off from code 72 Hugger Orange/Carousel Red. It's supposed to be very orange, as the "pure" red Olds used is code 75 Matador Red.

Below is my original paint Rally Red car, with the photo taken just before heading to the Olds Nationals this year.

IMG_2717.jpg

Terry
Old Oct 9, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by wmachine
Please do *not* make any more than casual judgments of what you see on a computer screen (regardless of how high tech the cumputer/monitor). There are too many variables that can alter the color from what it is to what you see.
Never rely on it.
I was able to find 1970 charts at the paint store but those chips are disappearing fast ...



Originally Posted by nick77
The color of the car now is ??????? as this is its #2 paint job following the original. I don't know if they tried to custom match or if they used some type of stocked color. How recent was your 442 painted? Anyway I have attached another pic.
The paint is 2 years old with a lot of road time ...

I think you hit it spot on and I'm a big fan of multiple slaps of paint. I think that's a good way to get that pulsating effect ...
Old Oct 9, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by vette442
Your car is a perfect Rally Red color. Rally Red is code 73, which is just one shade off from code 72 Hugger Orange/Carousel Red. It's supposed to be very orange, as the "pure" red Olds used is code 75 Matador Red.

Below is my original paint Rally Red car, with the photo taken just before heading to the Olds Nationals this year.



Terry
Here is my question ...

Is Rallye Red the color in the inset of the number on the glove box door etc . ..?

Everyone I ask says my car is Orange ...

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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mugzilla
Here is my question ...

Is Rallye Red the color in the inset of the number on the glove box door etc . ..?

Everyone I ask says my car is Orange ...
Maybe this hasn't been previously stated clear enough:
Oldsmobile Rally Red *definiely* looks orange to virtually everyone. It is red in name only.
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