pearsonba350

Hey- I'm looking for some assistance to get my tag decoded. I've been searching all over the internet and haven't come up with much. I got the VIN figured out. I know she's a 1970 2 door holiday coupe built during the first week of December (I'm assuming 1969 for the 1970 model year) and came out of the Fremont plant. I've also figured out the engine is coded for 1977 to 1980. Still have to get the trans and rear end numbers.
Here's the info from the tag-
First line- ST 70-34257 BF 04297 BDY
Second line- TR 980 B80 19 B PNT
Third line- 12A 207048 760117

I've been able to figure out what each code represents (Body build number, color code, trim code etc...) but I can't seem to find what the actual codes are. And help would be greatly appreciated. Hopefully soomeone sa least can give me a line on where I can find this info. I just what to know what this car was when she rolled of the assembly line.
Thanks

jaunty75

A number of people on here can help you and will likely chime in as soon as they see your post. If you haven't already seen it, you might also try this website:

http://automotivemileposts.com/oldsmobile/rpocodes.html

sandman357

Hi, Welcome to the forum. I am new to it as well. Just decoded my tag last week. Here is a link to the codes on the Body tag. http://www.69olds.com/decode.html

I will let you decode it yourself though. It is more fun discovering what you have rather than having someone tell you.

Got any pictures?

Good luck!
Steve

clubho

I check your link and tried the other one as well and even tried www.oldsmobility.com

oldsmobility.com had the best info and mostly correct but still my cowl tag has somethings that no site can explain to me. Can anyone help me?

.....................General Motors Corporation

068 (there is a 1 stamped slightly above to the right of the 6 below)

ST 67-33867.................BF 00576......Body

TR....980................................2........ Paint

.......B80

J53406...........................140736

......................Body by Fischer

Cameo White

clubho,
Your 068 is more likely 06B--Build date 2nd (B) week of June (6th month).
Not near my books so I don't know the rest of your codes right now.

jaunty75

That's definitely what it is. A June build date would make this a car built late in the model year.

Run to Rund

I don't recall where I found the info below originally. I am mostly into 1966 so haven't verified references to 1965 in the stuff below. I have checked some of the info on 66s that I have seen.

GROUP 1
E = Tinted glass - All - (A01)
W = Tinted glass - Windshield only - (A02)
0 = Roof moldings for two-tone paint - For (D99)
S = Power Trunk - (A 91)
T = Power Seat - Bucket for sure – (A46). Bench maybe – (A4I) (1965)
T = Vinyl top (unconfirmed) (1966)
L = Hole & mounting plate for floor shift manual (1966)
X = Power windows - (A31) (1965)
X = Column shift auto (1966)

GROUP 2
K = Air Conditioning - (C60)
G = Console - (D55)
X = Floor mounted Automatic Transmission - used with (D55)
L = Floor 4spd - (M20 or M21)
B = Floor 3spd - (M12 or M14)
R = Rear Shelf Speaker - (U80)
T = Power Antenna - (U75)
A = Extra Foam Padding – Front Seat
P = Unconfirmed
H = Heater Delete (1966 only)

GROUP 3
D = Unconfirmed – only seen with interior accessory package.
W = Unconfirmed (1965)
W = Carpeting (F85 only) (1966)

GROUP 4
C = Chrome side window sill moldings – (B85)
H = Chrome upper “peak” body side moldings – (B84) (1965 only)
M = Moldings - door/window glass frame (F85 only) (1966)
V = 442 side trim – (W29) (1965)
D = Y68 side moldings

GROUP 5
F = Remote mirror (D33)
W = Deluxe front seat belts (A49)
Y = Deluxe front and rear seat belts (A39)
M = Unconfirmed
O = Unconfirmed – may be seatbelt delete (A62)
V = 442 trim (1966)
Z = Belts, shoulder harness (1966)

Run to Rund

Now, with the above, look at the cowl tag for #24 1966 W30, which was ordered to be a race car by two guys working at Reynolds Olds in Metuchen, NJ:
06B L
66-33407 LAN 8576
935-A R-R
E 2HL
5VZY

pearsonba350

Thanks everyone. I've been to the 69olds.com site, and most of my codes do not match. I also hit up the oldsmobility site, and same thing, most of the codes do not match. About all I can get from the tag itself is that the car came with chrome roof drip moldings. I'm more interested in the color, the original paint behind the door panaels is a copper/bronze color. Hopefully, I'll come across a build sheet for it as I start tesring things down this winter and cleaning the car up.

pearsonba350

As I read back through the postings, I seem to have the same issue that clubho has. He's showing the same codes basically that I can't find any info for.

wmachine

No offense, clubho, but you make it hard on everyone when you jump into the middle of 2 different threads, asking the same question. Please start a new thread when you have something. And just one, please!

wmachine

1970 and 1967 data tags are not the same, and do not decode the same. Oldsmobility is incomplete and Rund's codes, as he says, are for '66 (though most apply to '67. They do not apply to '68 and newer.
But those are just *accessory* codes and even in the applicable '64-'67 years, they were used at the Lansing and Framingham plants, but *not* at the Fremont plant.
Confusing enough? Basically need to look at each tag individually for answers.

You have a Cutlass Supreme Hardtop Coupe
Okay, 19 B is Ebony Black with a black top
980 Black interior.
Triple black! nice......

Run to Rund

Kurt/wmachines brings up important points. Those who are enthusiastic about their cars should visit ebay and get a parts catalog and factory service manuals from the era. Trim, etc. codes can be found in them.
Body by Fisher, not Fischer.
The little hole at the bottom of 1966 cowl tags from Feb 66 on (to the left of Body by Fisher) indicate that the roof panel has reinforcements and threaded holes for shoulder belts.

jaunty75

I've never seen trim codes in a chassis or body service manual, and I've had or have manuals for '64, '67, '73, and '75. Info on decoding VINs is in them, but not cowl tag trim codes that I've ever found. Maybe they're in the other manuals you mention.

I agree that the FIRST purchase any owner of an old car should make if they plan to keep it and/or work on it is the service manuals. They'll answer at least half the questions people typically have.

pearsonba350

Thanks wmachine. I was told when I bought the car it was black, but I figured they were talking about the back primer I've been uncovering. Behind the driver's side door panel, it's a copper/bronze color, but that could be a replacement door. Triple black? I might have to consider that when it's time for paint. Thanks again!

pearsonba350

Just as a side note, I've been watching e-bay and lookiing through the Yearone site for the manuals. Thay are on the list of items to buy.

clubho

sorry. i will start a new thread. I thought you'd prefer keeping the same type of question in the same thread.