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Old November 21st, 2016, 09:48 PM
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Damaged442: That red 73' S is my favourite Cutlass from 73-77 era!
Tightly competing with 68'. For 69-72, ive never cared that much, which is pretty weird, since they are By far the most popular. Just dont look that good to my eyes.

Colour is also great. Welcome there.
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Nice 73

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1969 350 with #5 heads, rv cam, edlebrock performer intake with holley carb.
1985 200r4 slighly modified trans out of a Buick Gran National
3.73 eaton posi
2 inch dual exhaust.

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upgrade to 2.5 inch exhaust
change to pass through fuel injection
torqstorm supercharger
Let's see some more pics of this beauty!
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Subscribed! Hope I'm not diverting from your topic of current owners as I did sell my '77 this spring, but am definitely now a fan of several cars of that era after owning that one. As someone else mentioned what great cruisers, really cadillac ride quality - and the colonnade just grows on you. A few pics of my departed:

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Also, saw this '73 just came up for sale locally on CL, thought you guys might like to see it - a seldom seen car (at least to me) in apparently super original condition, thought this group might enjoy: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5861775165.html

"Oldsmobile 442-1973 all original Bucket swivel seats 455 big block matching number automatic hurts trim package original car comes with tilt wheel air conditioning ebony black these cars came with two colors white and of course the black 37,000 actual miles in my opinion this is one of the nicest body styles for the 442 Out ther bought from a private collector from his museum The car is in perfect condition all original runs and drives great the has documents in history if you're looking for 442 this is might be your car the lines the body interior no rips no dents or body damage over car is absolutely beautiful if you are interested please leave your number inside of your email or contact me direct 19,900 425 922-512/ "

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Seems like the 73-77's been growing in price lately?
My 76' 442 was bought from AZ 2014, at a price of $2400. That for sure was a bargain, even more considering its condition and originality.

Heres a pic of it at the condition i bought it:



Picture just lies bad from paint quality, its badly burnt, next winter ( 2017) its going to get re-painted, its already saved for, the cost of it.

Only thing i hate are those damned swivel bucket seats. Been wondering lately, would the regular seats ( not bench) fit on the same rails as swivels. They are just so bad to sit its not even funny. Of course i would save those in case i sell it some day, but until that, id rather have seats comfortable to sit.
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Hey,
Good to see you guys posting here on ClassicOlds. I hope we can grow our little fan base here and share all that was over @ the 73-77 site.
I have a couple things on the back burner that may help our weasy V8's in the future, just a slow progress at the moment haha.
Hoping to see many more 73-77 olds guys here in the future.
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Originally Posted by Inline
Only thing i hate are those damned swivel bucket seats. Been wondering lately, would the regular seats ( not bench) fit on the same rails as swivels. They are just so bad to sit its not even funny. Of course i would save those in case i sell it some day, but until that, id rather have seats comfortable to sit.
The strato buckets don't use the same rails, mounting points or seat belts as the swivel buckets but the non-power strato buckets do use the same seat belts as a non-power bench seat car. The swivel bucket seat belts are valuable if in good condition and hard to find in nice condition or "any" condition actually. The swivel seats are probably some of the most uncomfortable seats GM ever made and the covers are almost always split from owners who fail to swivel the seat to get in and out, instead sliding in and out sideways. It stresses the outside seam where the back and bottom join and it splits. Swivel buckets are notoriously difficult to recover too. (difficult=expensive) That being said I'm having mine done currently with NOS material from SMS and new seat foam from PUI. I knew it wouldn't be inexpensive when the trim guy said, "You know it takes 23 separate pieces to make each seat cover." They should be ready around the first of the year. I'm sure they will still be uncomfortable.

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Okay, thanks for very through-out explanation.

My seat belts are flawless. And both sides the upper and lower reels are also working good. Didnt know that even they differ from others. Lol im having very uncomfortable treasure then..
Hmm, seems like my options are pretty Limited if i want to keep it close to original, meaning that i could swap it back to original By just changing parts..
Funny, my drivers seat cover is split just as you described.

You happen to know solution for problem i have? The seat-belt holders on my buckets were loose and were disintegrating all the time, so i bought new holders from The Parts Place. Same problem still- when turning the seat, every now and then they come off from their seats, the loops where the belt runs, and i have to install them again. They are loose even when new. Ive tried to install small, un-noticeable taps to spread the loops against "holders", but still im having the problem of them to come off every now and then.

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Originally Posted by Dan K
Also, saw this '73 just came up for sale locally on CL, thought you guys might like to see it - a seldom seen car (at least to me) in apparently super original condition, thought this group might enjoy: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5861775165.html

"Oldsmobile 442-1973 all original Bucket swivel seats 455 big block matching number automatic hurts trim package original car comes with tilt wheel air conditioning ebony black these cars came with two colors white and of course the black 37,000 actual miles in my opinion this is one of the nicest body styles for the 442 Out ther bought from a private collector from his museum The car is in perfect condition all original runs and drives great the has documents in history if you're looking for 442 this is might be your car the lines the body interior no rips no dents or body damage over car is absolutely beautiful if you are interested please leave your number inside of your email or contact me direct 19,900 425 922-512/ "


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Looks like some incorrect information in that CL ad. Only available in white or black? He is apparently confused with the 73 H/O. Plus this car has the "hurts trim package"
Nice car I'd love to have but those ancient tires need to go.
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Originally Posted by Inline
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You happen to know solution for problem i have? The seat-belt holders on my buckets were loose and were disintegrating all the time, so i bought new holders from The Parts Place. Same problem still- when turning the seat, every now and then they come off from their seats, the loops where the belt runs, and i have to install them again. They are loose even when new. Ive tried to install small, un-noticeable taps to spread the loops against "holders", but still im having the problem of them to come off every now and then.
Yes I do. When new there was a small plastic peg that fit in the center of the seat belt loop to hold the two sides open and in the mount. Since that car is from Arizona the little peg probably disintegrated in the first week that car was on the road. I have used a small screw in the center of mine to hold them tight so I can swivel the seat and have the seat belt retainer loops stay put. I still have a couple of the original little pegs but they pop out if you swivel the seat and put stress on them so I use the screws. Also swivel seats used two different shaped retainers on each seat for the seat belts, a rectangular and a triangular. I believe the rectangular is the upper and the triangular is the lower but don't have my seats here to look.
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Aha okay. I have square ones both at upper and lower position. New ones- but i just ordered them as what i already had at the car- 4 squares. And yeah, that "peg" was the word, and ive tried to use them too, but they just pop out every now and then as you described- so seems like a screw-time for me too
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Some really cool sweet looking 73-77's out there.

Here is mine;
'76 Cutlass Supreme. It has 53k original miles with one paint job, triple black with gold body strip, 350 4bbl 350 trans all original, power windows and locks and twilight sentinel lights. No cats with custom dual exhaust. This is a 3 time National Show Winner. Four time Quad State Winner and many others. The only pics I have on hand have my two girls sitting side by side this year at a "Cars In The Yard" show local here in the Twin Cities.

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Sweet!
But am i seeing my owns or is there antenna coming from left exhaust outlet?
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FYI black 73 442

Just an FYI that the asking price on the black 73 442 is now down to $18000 USD. It started in the 30s two years ago. Time for someone to take a run at that car. $15000 would be an awesome buy on that car; see if the seller flinches.
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Originally Posted by Inline
Sweet!
But am i seeing my owns or is there antenna coming from left exhaust outlet?
Yeah there is an antenna there. It is not coming from the exhaust thou. It is a CB antenna that was used for cruising to communicate between cars. I have since taken it off as we tend not to chat as much while cruising and it seems that club cruising has gone down a lot since then. Good observation!
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77 Cutlass S picked up this summer from my Aunt who was the original owner has 49000 miles Never seen a winter. Putting edelbrock heads,intake,cam kit,timing, headers,dual exhaust, Quick fuel carburetor. Other than that I put new door seals and tires on it car is in great shape.
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Wow that looks really nice! Whats the exterior colour?
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Red dash and carpet white seats and door panels. And they're spotless
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Here is my 77 black on red Supreme Brougham sedan but it's a mess now.

A few guys had asked to see photos of my 77 Cutlass Supreme Brougham sedan that my family ordered new with every option offered, power windows, locks, seats, power trunk, cruise, 8 track stereo, super stock steering wheel, sport mirrors, super stock rims, everything. We took delivery in May 1977. I'll never forget seeing the car for the first time before it was prepped for pickup. The beautiful red and gold pinstriped pillow Brougham interior was covered in plastic and there were newspapers covering the carpets, who knows why. I'll never forget the new car smell it had, better than any other new car smell I remember after that. The Brougham sedan was only offered for the final 77 model year of the classic colonnade body style. Total 77 Cutlass production was 632742 cars with only 16738 Brougham sedans built, the rarest 77 Cutlass model. I can not remember the last time I saw another 77 Brougham sedan, if ever. Here are some sad photos of the Brougham, locked up in the corner of my storage building where it's been sitting since 1988. That part of the roof leaked for a long time and did it's job on the car. I went into the back of the building just today and took these photos. I have not walked over to this area to see the car for years. The garage door where the car was pulled in is now blocked by trees and large bushes. I don't have the Heart to junk her so she just stays put. I feel ticked off about how I just let this car go as I took these photos today. I can't believe how she looks now. I have nobody to blame but myself. Life goes on and we forget about things that were once dear to us. I also included two photos of the car taken in the summer of 77 with my cat relaxing in the back seat and a photo taken of the car in December of 77. I sure loved this car when it was in it's prime... Oh well.
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[QUOTE=Dan K;970057]76olds,

Subscribed! Hope I'm not diverting from your topic of current owners as I did sell my '77 this spring, but am definitely now a fan of several cars of that era after owning that one. As someone else mentioned what great cruisers, really cadillac ride quality - and the colonnade just grows on you. A few pics of my departed:


No problem Dan,

Thanks for posting the pics, The colonnades certainly do grow on you for sure. That was a nice looking 77 you sold.
Thanks for following along.
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Originally Posted by rlorman
77 Cutlass S picked up this summer from my Aunt who was the original owner has 49000 miles Never seen a winter. Putting edelbrock heads,intake,cam kit,timing, headers,dual exhaust, Quick fuel carburetor. Other than that I put new door seals and tires on it car is in great shape.
Put-r-ther nice 77'. Looking forward to following along with your added performance when that takes place.
When do you plan on beginning the performance part swaps?
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In process now motors on the stand. I have to paint the engine compartment and touch up some other things in there just cosmetic. Over the holidays I'll probably start bolting the engine back together.
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In process now motors on the stand. I have to paint the engine compartment and touch up some other things in there just cosmetic. Over the holidays I'll probably start bolting the engine back together.
Sweet.
Good for you doing this yourself.
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I was going to rebuild my 455, add new heads, cam, etc. But then I realized, I'm no spring chicken, and as I've grown older I've also got money for someone else to build the engine for me. Mark (CutlassEFI) is building a motor for my '73. Initial dyno using a carb was done last week, there is more work to be done to it (port fuel injection hooked up/tuned) and get it ready for 91 octane, more dyno work to be done.
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I was going to rebuild my 455, add new heads, cam, etc. But then I realized, I'm no spring chicken, and as I've grown older I've also got money for someone else to build the engine for me. Mark (CutlassEFI) is building a motor for my '73. Initial dyno using a carb was done last week, there is more work to be done to it (port fuel injection hooked up/tuned) and get it ready for 91 octane, more dyno work to be done.
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White one on the left , first car have owned since 88
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Here's the beginning. This is pre-EFI, using a carburetor for the initial dyno at 93 octane. Final results will be lower as it will be de-tuned for 91 octane pump gas and EFI usually slightly lower HP than Carburetor.
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Originally Posted by first77
White one on the left , first car have owned since 88
Nice 77, thanks for coming on board here in this thread. Hope to hear more about your 77 .

Good to see you posting here Joe (Aretubj)!!! Put-er-ther.

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Originally Posted by mrw8i
I was going to rebuild my 455, add new heads, cam, etc. But then I realized, I'm no spring chicken, and as I've grown older I've also got money for someone else to build the engine for me. Mark (CutlassEFI) is building a motor for my '73. Initial dyno using a carb was done last week, there is more work to be done to it (port fuel injection hooked up/tuned) and get it ready for 91 octane, more dyno work to be done.
Hope to see some pics when its all done, your in good hands with Mark. I'm sure you will be more than happy when you get your engine back in the car.
Thanks for keeping us posted.
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Trailered this one home today- 76 with 53k miles and is rust free, black vinyl interior.
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Looks to be in nice shape, These cars seem to be popping up all over the place lately. Many with low mileage as well.
Do you have any plans for your new found 76'

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Did any of you guys who added true dual exhaust change your tranny cross member to a dual hump or did you just go under the single hump one? That is if you weren't lucky enough to already have a dual hump!! Just wondering how low it will hang if I run mine under the single hump cross member unless I can get lucky enough to find a duel.
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And Sorry Inline for not answering you earlier the color is Firethorne red
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Originally Posted by rlorman
Did any of you guys who added true dual exhaust change your tranny cross member to a dual hump or did you just go under the single hump one? That is if you weren't lucky enough to already have a dual hump!! Just wondering how low it will hang if I run mine under the single hump cross member unless I can get lucky enough to find a duel.
No problem about answering the colour, for starters. Better late than never i suppose

I have true duals, with original "single-hump" crossmember. I can take pics when i go to garage next time, tho it could take up to month..

But describing by words, it hangs pretty low on the driver-side where it makes curve under the "single-hump" cross-member. So much, that for driver i want to be able to drive where-ever i want, i wouldnt consider to lower it AT ALL. And i want to lower it from front.

Thankfully, i monitored e-bay and this site for long, and at last found advertisement for correct dual-hump crossmember. Got it now cleaned and painted waiting for installation, and after that i go and get it to exhaust shop to straighten the kink on exhaust.

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Trailered this one home today- 76 with 53k miles and is rust free, black vinyl interior.
I was going to look at this car. Would love to see more pics. Congrats.
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Originally Posted by rlorman
Did any of you guys who added true dual exhaust change your tranny cross member to a dual hump or did you just go under the single hump one? That is if you weren't lucky enough to already have a dual hump!! Just wondering how low it will hang if I run mine under the single hump cross member unless I can get lucky enough to find a duel.
I had my cross-member torched out then welded a plate in, you can have a look in my profile pics to see it. I worked out well actually, I have 2 1/4 pipe and it fit thru the slot fine.
Some guys squash the pipe a little just to get the pipe up a bit higher. So you could always squash the pipe a little.
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I have a '76 Cutlass S Centennial Firethorn. Bench seat, crank windows, a low option car. 350 4 barrel. I wanted a clean, rust free vehicle that I could build my way without feeling bad about altering. It will get true duals with Thornton manifolds, Qjet replacing the Holley and a rear sway bar before putting it back on the street this spring.
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Originally Posted by Pfiffle
I have a '76 Cutlass S Centennial Firethorn. Bench seat, crank windows, a low option car. 350 4 barrel. I wanted a clean, rust free vehicle that I could build my way without feeling bad about altering. It will get true duals with Thornton manifolds, Qjet replacing the Holley and a rear sway bar before putting it back on the street this spring.

Duals will wake your car up a bit, sounds like you have some plans for your 76. We will follow along with updates as you begin your mods.
We all like pictures, do you have any you can post?

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I will post pics soon, maybe as I go on with it. I will be open to suggestions too. I want everyone to feel free to add their knowledge to my project.
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Were all here to help Tom, Ther seems to be more and more 73-76 guys coming aboard here so ask away. Also the guys with pre 72 Olds years are very helpful as well. Looking forward to following along with your project and viewing the pics as you go.

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