More zero-tolerance stupidity
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Oldsdruid
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From: Southside Vajenya
More zero-tolerance stupidity
http://www.wral.com/attention-after-...teen/12404125/
The backstory here is that two years ago, in this same school, an assistant principal left her loaded pistol in her car and had the auto shop students change her oil. They found the gun and as boys will do, passed it around to check it out until the SRO confiscated it.
That AP and another administrator got only a 3-day suspension over that incident, yet the school administration threw the book at an honor student for forgetting his unloaded skeet gun was in his vehicle and reporting it, thinking he was doing the right thing. Instead it got him arrested, expelled and a felony charge that in a sane world would be dropped and expunged.
I can't say I think LU is his best option, and I personally think the Falwell Empire is using this to make their own political hay, but at least some people are using a little common sense about this thing. Maybe he'll go to their law school and work to overturn and invalidate some of these asinine zero-tolerance laws, or at least make public employee stupidity a zero-tolerance crime. You can bet your *** things would change then.
I forget- governmentalized school administrators may no longer use common sense in any decision affecting their young charges. Makes me glad I have no school-age kids. I'd do whatever it took to keep them out of public schools.
The backstory here is that two years ago, in this same school, an assistant principal left her loaded pistol in her car and had the auto shop students change her oil. They found the gun and as boys will do, passed it around to check it out until the SRO confiscated it.
That AP and another administrator got only a 3-day suspension over that incident, yet the school administration threw the book at an honor student for forgetting his unloaded skeet gun was in his vehicle and reporting it, thinking he was doing the right thing. Instead it got him arrested, expelled and a felony charge that in a sane world would be dropped and expunged.
I can't say I think LU is his best option, and I personally think the Falwell Empire is using this to make their own political hay, but at least some people are using a little common sense about this thing. Maybe he'll go to their law school and work to overturn and invalidate some of these asinine zero-tolerance laws, or at least make public employee stupidity a zero-tolerance crime. You can bet your *** things would change then.
I forget- governmentalized school administrators may no longer use common sense in any decision affecting their young charges. Makes me glad I have no school-age kids. I'd do whatever it took to keep them out of public schools.
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From: The Hudson Valley
I am constantly amazed by this BS.
When we were in high school in NYC in the late '70s, we carried buck knives (and occasionally swords - no kidding) openly on our belts with no problems (and, more to the point, no problems from muggers), then a few years later they changed the rules, but didn't publicize it, and my brother was expelled for carrying a 5" blade Buck knife in the open - heck, if he'd known it was against the rules, he would have put it in his bookbag.
I also kept guns in my room in college - hey, it's my right to.
Anyway, nowadays you bring a pen knife on a plane and the evacuate the airport.
It's not the same country anymore.
- Eric
When we were in high school in NYC in the late '70s, we carried buck knives (and occasionally swords - no kidding) openly on our belts with no problems (and, more to the point, no problems from muggers), then a few years later they changed the rules, but didn't publicize it, and my brother was expelled for carrying a 5" blade Buck knife in the open - heck, if he'd known it was against the rules, he would have put it in his bookbag.
I also kept guns in my room in college - hey, it's my right to.
Anyway, nowadays you bring a pen knife on a plane and the evacuate the airport.
It's not the same country anymore.
- Eric
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Oldsdruid
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From: Southside Vajenya
I won't say you need more (or any) guns at school, but I will say you have to use some common sense about things. NC law mandates the expulsion and felony charges but the law is written so it affects only students. It also doesn't allow for discretion, which is the problem with all this zero-tolerance nonsense. And, as we see with the AP situation, it creates a double standard.
I hate to see an otherwise good kid mauled over something like this. Troublemaker with a past history is one thing. A well-adjusted Eagle Scout honor student is something else completely. As it stands, unless this BS is dropped and expunged, this kid has a felony following him the rest of his life for simply being forgetful.
I maintain- enact zero-tolerance laws for public employee stupidity (including lawmakers) and the laws will change so fast your head will spin.
Nowhere was it said the kid considered his skeet gun a toy. A pastime that develops good hand-eye coordination and precision marksman skills, yes. And to my sorrow, as I have aged mine have diminished.
I hate to see an otherwise good kid mauled over something like this. Troublemaker with a past history is one thing. A well-adjusted Eagle Scout honor student is something else completely. As it stands, unless this BS is dropped and expunged, this kid has a felony following him the rest of his life for simply being forgetful.
I maintain- enact zero-tolerance laws for public employee stupidity (including lawmakers) and the laws will change so fast your head will spin.
Nowhere was it said the kid considered his skeet gun a toy. A pastime that develops good hand-eye coordination and precision marksman skills, yes. And to my sorrow, as I have aged mine have diminished.
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From: Fuquay Varina NC
I won't say you need more (or any) guns at school, but I will say you have to use some common sense about things. NC law mandates the expulsion and felony charges but the law is written so it affects only students. It also doesn't allow for discretion, which is the problem with all this zero-tolerance nonsense. And, as we see with the AP situation, it creates a double standard.
I hate to see an otherwise good kid mauled over something like this. Troublemaker with a past history is one thing. A well-adjusted Eagle Scout honor student is something else completely. As it stands, unless this BS is dropped and expunged, this kid has a felony following him the rest of his life for simply being forgetful.
I maintain- enact zero-tolerance laws for public employee stupidity (including lawmakers) and the laws will change so fast your head will spin.
Nowhere was it said the kid considered his skeet gun a toy. A pastime that develops good hand-eye coordination and precision marksman skills, yes. And to my sorrow, as I have aged mine have diminished.
I hate to see an otherwise good kid mauled over something like this. Troublemaker with a past history is one thing. A well-adjusted Eagle Scout honor student is something else completely. As it stands, unless this BS is dropped and expunged, this kid has a felony following him the rest of his life for simply being forgetful.
I maintain- enact zero-tolerance laws for public employee stupidity (including lawmakers) and the laws will change so fast your head will spin.
Nowhere was it said the kid considered his skeet gun a toy. A pastime that develops good hand-eye coordination and precision marksman skills, yes. And to my sorrow, as I have aged mine have diminished.
Last edited by Sampson; May 3, 2013 at 04:17 PM.
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From: Forest Ranch Ca.
So sad
I am to old, I was able to win my first Marksman pin in high school, shot a model 52 Winchester DCM rifle (the guns were the property of Durham High school ) indoors in the school metal shop. Shot well to well enough later to bump me into the sharp shooter class. I often rebuilt firearms in machine shop as my daily projects and you were thought to be strange if you didn't carry a jack knife.
I feel sad that my grand kids have to grow up in a place such as this.......Lost in the fifties and don't care if I ever find my way back
...Tedd
I feel sad that my grand kids have to grow up in a place such as this.......Lost in the fifties and don't care if I ever find my way back
...Tedd
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