Kids these days
May 2nd, 2015, 05:28 PM
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Kids these days
The world is going down hill. Lol. Stopped at an auto parts store. Guy runs parts for cutlass. He stands there for a good minute. ..then looks at me with a lost look on his face and says he can't find cutlass. ...who makes that.....😮
My old man instantly came to mind and I had to drop a "bless your hart" on him
My old man instantly came to mind and I had to drop a "bless your hart" on him
May 3rd, 2015, 01:45 AM
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I wonder how many older car guys back in the '50s or '60s were telling their buddies, (in a bar, or over the garden fence, not online or by text 
), how they went to the parts store and the kid looked at them blankly when they asked for parts for their LaSalle or Oakland..........
Roger.
), how they went to the parts store and the kid looked at them blankly when they asked for parts for their LaSalle or Oakland..........Roger.
May 3rd, 2015, 09:08 AM
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Ha! I just went through a similar scenario at the one of the chains, trying to get a carb gasket.
"It says it's fuel injected"
"Uhmnn, I'm pretty sure it's carbureted."
"Do you have the car here, so we can look at it?"
Yikes!, lol!
"It says it's fuel injected"
"Uhmnn, I'm pretty sure it's carbureted."
"Do you have the car here, so we can look at it?"
Yikes!, lol!
May 4th, 2015, 05:23 AM
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May 4th, 2015, 11:50 AM
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I wonder how many older car guys back in the '50s or '60s were telling their buddies, (in a bar, or over the garden fence, not online or by text ), how they went to the parts store and the kid looked at them blankly when they asked for parts for their LaSalle or Oakland..........
Roger.
), how they went to the parts store and the kid looked at them blankly when they asked for parts for their LaSalle or Oakland..........Roger.
This. Some Cutlasses are over 50 years old. Cant blame the average parts chain guy to know every car. I avoid chain auto parts anyway because of this.
May 5th, 2015, 09:31 AM
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Prof, I know the Hupp brand as a brand, but that's about it. You'd have me on that one.
May 5th, 2015, 10:38 AM
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Kids. I just got back from voting in the local primary. The election officers were two middle aged ladies accompanied by a pack of acne-faced teenagers. The kids thought the new iPad-based voter recognition system was so cool -- the iPad was all they wanted to talk about. they even asked me what I thought of the ipad. I told them it had no replaceable battery, a low resolution screen, inadequate storage, a lame-*** CPU, and no keyboard. It's not a computing device, it's a toy with limited utility.
They looked at me like I had horns.
One of them comments that the iPad helps them to help people who don't know their precinct number, and direct them to the right room. I point out to them that an iPad isn't necessary for that, as the precinct information is printed on the voter registration card.
So I hand them my ID. One of them questions me about it and asks if I'm a resident. I point out that my license has a gold star at the top, which makes it a Secure ID. I ask them if they know what the Secure ID certification means. One of them comments that it's something "silly." Apparently the people who check voter ID don't care to know that to get a Secure ID card you have to provide documentation of your identity, SSN, lawful status in the USA and your state residency. It requires a minimum of 5 documents, and it's a PITB to go through. You'd think that someone who is charged with ID verification might know these things.
They stick my ID in front of the iPad camera, it reads the bar code, puts my name on the screen, accepts my signature, and then it locks up and needs to be rebooted. We had to power it off and start all over.
Kid: "Oh, the software needs an update."
Bob: "Same thing last year. iPad system still doesn't work."
The kids think that everything Apple is cool -- apparently the worms in the Apple don't bother them. Teens all want to have one. It's a status symbol to them.
Today my ability to vote was hampered by the poor quality of some guy's iPad app. I hope that someday our ability to get parts will not depend on the quality of some guy's iPad app. Most parts counter apps already don't recognize any Super 88 prior to 1963.
They looked at me like I had horns.
One of them comments that the iPad helps them to help people who don't know their precinct number, and direct them to the right room. I point out to them that an iPad isn't necessary for that, as the precinct information is printed on the voter registration card.
So I hand them my ID. One of them questions me about it and asks if I'm a resident. I point out that my license has a gold star at the top, which makes it a Secure ID. I ask them if they know what the Secure ID certification means. One of them comments that it's something "silly." Apparently the people who check voter ID don't care to know that to get a Secure ID card you have to provide documentation of your identity, SSN, lawful status in the USA and your state residency. It requires a minimum of 5 documents, and it's a PITB to go through. You'd think that someone who is charged with ID verification might know these things.
They stick my ID in front of the iPad camera, it reads the bar code, puts my name on the screen, accepts my signature, and then it locks up and needs to be rebooted. We had to power it off and start all over.
Kid: "Oh, the software needs an update."
Bob: "Same thing last year. iPad system still doesn't work."
The kids think that everything Apple is cool -- apparently the worms in the Apple don't bother them. Teens all want to have one. It's a status symbol to them.
Today my ability to vote was hampered by the poor quality of some guy's iPad app. I hope that someday our ability to get parts will not depend on the quality of some guy's iPad app. Most parts counter apps already don't recognize any Super 88 prior to 1963.
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May 5th, 2015, 11:01 AM
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Close, to get parts today you have to have the information pop up on a parts store computer screen so the pointy haired kid behind the counter can figure it out. Think of the issues that arise when your dealing with things out of the ordinary where you the customer have to tell them where to look for a part that your after in non stock applications.
May 5th, 2015, 11:09 AM
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I already have that problem. I want to AutoZone to buy a starter for my 62 Super 88. I already knew the correct starter for the application, as the Remy rep gave me the AutoZone part number for the Remy starter for my application. The kid typed in 62 Super 88 and he found no starter because 1962 Super 88 isn't in the database. Knowing their database craps-out at 1962 I told him to search for 63 Super 88 and the part number came right up.
If the database is wrong, then you have to know more than the programmer who put the data into the database, or you're screwed. Today the guy running the parts-counter app has no chance of knowing these things on his own.
If the database is wrong, then you have to know more than the programmer who put the data into the database, or you're screwed. Today the guy running the parts-counter app has no chance of knowing these things on his own.
May 5th, 2015, 12:44 PM
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May 5th, 2015, 03:25 PM
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Wow. Now I know what Secure ID means, too.
What's the point of it?
So, wait a minute. You have to not only give them an ID in order to vote, but they have to scan it with a computer and you sign it electronically?
Wow, I would be leery of that.
Around here, the old lady looks your name up in the big book and you sign next to your registration signature.
It was exactly the same for all the years I lived in NYC and in upstate NY; old lady, big book.
If there's no paper trail, how do you know that some other pimply kid didn't just hack the system and vote for you?
(Incidentally, the NY Times had quite an article about how easy it is to hack certain electronic voting machines a few weeks ago...).
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What's the point of it?
Wow, I would be leery of that.
Around here, the old lady looks your name up in the big book and you sign next to your registration signature.
It was exactly the same for all the years I lived in NYC and in upstate NY; old lady, big book.
If there's no paper trail, how do you know that some other pimply kid didn't just hack the system and vote for you?
(Incidentally, the NY Times had quite an article about how easy it is to hack certain electronic voting machines a few weeks ago...).
- Eric
May 5th, 2015, 03:43 PM
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Most Americans haven't kept up with this. When you get arrested your Secure ID will prevent you from being placed into one of the many Immigrant Detention Centers that they're building across the USA. According to law, if you can't prove citizenship when you get incarcerated, you go do one of the Immigrant Detention Centers, and they may keep you there for an indeterminate period, unless they plan to deport you. Think of it as the Hotel California.
Yeah -- I don't like it.
The last year that they had the paper books, I noticed that may father -- who had already been dead for 15 years -- was still in the voter registration book. Apparently, he was still voting. When I saw his name above mine in the book, I printed the word "DECEASED" in the box for his signature. That *REALLY* pissed off the election judge. I was thinking that it would have been simple enough for my Dad to continue to vote as long as that box was left open.
I don't think the electronic system makes it any easier to stop cheating. Like you said, in some respects it might be easier for elections to have a faked outcome.
As they say, in Chicago, "Vote early and vote often."
... or as Stalin said:
"It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything."
So, wait a minute. You have to not only give them an ID in order to vote, but they have to scan it with a computer and you sign it electronically?
Wow, I would be leery of that.
Around here, the old lady looks your name up in the big book and you sign next to your registration signature.
It was exactly the same for all the years I lived in NYC and in upstate NY; old lady, big book.
If there's no paper trail, how do you know that some other pimply kid didn't just hack the system and vote for you?
(Incidentally, the NY Times had quite an article about how easy it is to hack certain electronic voting machines a few weeks ago...).
- Eric
Wow, I would be leery of that.
Around here, the old lady looks your name up in the big book and you sign next to your registration signature.
It was exactly the same for all the years I lived in NYC and in upstate NY; old lady, big book.
If there's no paper trail, how do you know that some other pimply kid didn't just hack the system and vote for you?
(Incidentally, the NY Times had quite an article about how easy it is to hack certain electronic voting machines a few weeks ago...).
- Eric
The last year that they had the paper books, I noticed that may father -- who had already been dead for 15 years -- was still in the voter registration book. Apparently, he was still voting. When I saw his name above mine in the book, I printed the word "DECEASED" in the box for his signature. That *REALLY* pissed off the election judge. I was thinking that it would have been simple enough for my Dad to continue to vote as long as that box was left open.
I don't think the electronic system makes it any easier to stop cheating. Like you said, in some respects it might be easier for elections to have a faked outcome.
As they say, in Chicago, "Vote early and vote often."
... or as Stalin said:
"It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything."
May 5th, 2015, 04:50 PM
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And as a certified Old White Guy, I doubt anyone would even consider deporting me (the kids today call that "white privilege"), but I guess if they did, I wouldn't mind a free trip to Ireland, Germany or Italy.
My wife could always mail me my passport... Or would she....??
- Eric
May 5th, 2015, 05:08 PM
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Here you have to provide your official birth certificate and a utility bill when you renew your drivers license. Once you get the secure ID you only need a utility bill to show current address.
The voting is a real mess across the country, to say nothing of the amount of social security checks written each year to people over the age of 100.
The voting is a real mess across the country, to say nothing of the amount of social security checks written each year to people over the age of 100.
May 5th, 2015, 05:31 PM
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I think you missed an important point -- If you can't PROVE citizenship, you go to the Imigrant Detention Center. Period. If you are an alien, you might get deported, but then you might not. You may just sit there for months on end, or get a permanent job at the for-profit privatized institution for 10-cents an hour. Think of it as the American equivalent of the labor camps.
If you're not an alien then maybe there's nowhere to deport you to... but you still get to work for 10-cents an hour until you can prove your citizenship. You'd better hope that your wife brings your passport because if she doesn't, you could be in for a long vacation.
These are privatized, for-profit institutions that get paid by the number of people they keep there. They use captive labor, and pay substandard wages. They have no incentive to transfer you out. It's quite an abhorrent situation. The abuses are well documented. One of the major private prison companies just bought hundreds of acres of land in my town. Our community is fighting at the grass roots level to keep them from building the detention center, but all the politicians see are dollar signs.
May 5th, 2015, 06:31 PM
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But then who can really PROVE he was born here, right?
I mean, the only real PROOF is my birth certificate, which has exactly zero identifying information that relates to me right now.
I used the birth certificate to get the passport.
So, really, the passport may well be fraudulent as well, right?
And let's say I do have my passport - I hand it to the officer, who then... puts it in his pocket.
Bang! No proof.
Welcome to the USA.
- Eric
I mean, the only real PROOF is my birth certificate, which has exactly zero identifying information that relates to me right now.
I used the birth certificate to get the passport.
So, really, the passport may well be fraudulent as well, right?
And let's say I do have my passport - I hand it to the officer, who then... puts it in his pocket.
Bang! No proof.
Welcome to the USA.
- Eric
May 5th, 2015, 07:32 PM
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We don't have any "secure id" here in Indiana & I don't believe that they will deport you or take you to a detention center if you can't prove citizenship. I have a good friend/neighbor & he has never mentioned anything about things like this? I've never been arrested....yet.... so I can't say for sure. I know Indiana is a bit behind the left & right coast on things like this so maybe it's coming our way?
May 5th, 2015, 08:12 PM
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- Eric
May 5th, 2015, 08:48 PM
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This does not happen. Here in Arizona we have lots of real illegal immigrants and law enforcement is NOT ALLOWED to check their immigration status if/when they are arrested. There have been federal lawsuits PREVENTING this.
May 6th, 2015, 05:44 AM
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May 6th, 2015, 06:33 AM
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Thousands of workers over the age of 100 applied through the U.S. government to verify their employment eligibility in recent years.
They used dead people's Social Security numbers when they applied for JOBS.
A recent watchdog review found that at least 6.5 million active Social Security numbers belong to people who are at least 112 years old... Only 35 living individuals worldwide had reached that age as of October 2013...
one individual opened bank accounts using Social Security numbers for individuals born in 1869 and 1893.
... nearly 3,900 Social Security numbers were run through the U.S. government’s E-Verify system for people more than a century old between 2008 and 2011.
So, people are using dead people's social security numbers to evade taxes and to get jobs when they're not legally able to work.
We know this already. We've known this for years.
And it doesn't say that 6.5 million numbers are being used illegally, only that there are that many numbers in the system that the SSA hasn't reclassified as "inactive" (which means they are "active").
The numbers being used illegally are stated in the article to be much lower.
So, yes, hogwash. The Inspector General's audit DOES NOT show 6.5 MILLION recipients over 112 years old.
- Eric
