Do you like windows 10?
Do you like windows 10?
I "upgraded" both of my computers from windows 7 to the 10. Mainly because the computer updates said to upload w. 10 all the time and i gave in.
It has screwed with my lap top kinda bad. I just spent 3 hrs updating, erasing, no malware or viruses.
It has screwed with my lap top kinda bad. I just spent 3 hrs updating, erasing, no malware or viruses.
My wife installed it on just one of our laptops to try it ( free windows 10) buggered everything up, she deleted and went back to windows 7 .
I think ther will be many more unhappy subscribers!!
I think ther will be many more unhappy subscribers!!
Good luck with that!
Sooner or later Microsoft will stop supporting Windows 7 , and we will all be forced to upgrade to Windows 10(or whatever the latest and greatest thing is at the time). This is the thing that bugs me the most about computers. They keep constantly changing things and an old dog like me is forced to learn new tricks.
Sooner or later Microsoft will stop supporting Windows 7 , and we will all be forced to upgrade to Windows 10(or whatever the latest and greatest thing is at the time). This is the thing that bugs me the most about computers. They keep constantly changing things and an old dog like me is forced to learn new tricks.
I have 3 systems on W10, no problems here. Yes, we'll all be forced to upgrade as an increasing number of common applications stop providing support for any Windows version below 10.
There's always the old Linux route if you don't like Windows, right?
There's always the old Linux route if you don't like Windows, right?
Good luck with that!
Sooner or later Microsoft will stop supporting Windows 7 , and we will all be forced to upgrade to Windows 10(or whatever the latest and greatest thing is at the time). This is the thing that bugs me the most about computers. They keep constantly changing things and an old dog like me is forced to learn new tricks.
Sooner or later Microsoft will stop supporting Windows 7 , and we will all be forced to upgrade to Windows 10(or whatever the latest and greatest thing is at the time). This is the thing that bugs me the most about computers. They keep constantly changing things and an old dog like me is forced to learn new tricks.
I also have win 7 pro and switched to 10, but switched back to 7 pro. I really didn't have a problem with how 10 worked, but did have issues with my Synaptic touch pad, which was particularly unhappy with the upgrade. I performed all available updates, but nothing helped so i switched back to 7. This is an older laptop, so maybe the tech isn't compatible.
I've been using it on my new Lenovo laptop since Oct. I like it a lot. Certainly a better product than Win8. My laptop converts to a tablet, so I need the touch screen functions in Win10. My only complaint was the upgrade process. My computer came with Win8 and I did the free upgrade no too long after the official release of Win10. The problem was, it was so new that Lenovo hadn't released all the Win10 drivers yet, and some of the functions on the new computer didn't work correctly at first. That was resolved after a few weeks. I wouldn't look back.
I am still on Vista.... I have to use Google Chrome that I don't like because nothing else works as good on Vista. I am going to have to go to 7 soon because Chrome will not work much longer either. Not even sure if I can put 7 or 10 on this computer. It was new in 2008.
I am still on Vista.... I have to use Google Chrome that I don't like because nothing else works as good on Vista. I am going to have to go to 7 soon because Chrome will not work much longer either. Not even sure if I can put 7 or 10 on this computer. It was new in 2008.

My old laptop was a Vista machine, and I finally had come to terms with it, but I was having so many problems with newer software and websites not working properly due to Vista and the RAM limitations in that computer that I bit the bullet last year. If you're used to Vista, Win10 is a breath of fresh air. Of course, Microsoft has screwed it up so many times, that when they finally release an operating system that works as it's supposed to out of the box, we think it's a miracle. In fact, simply not screwing up should be the minimum acceptable performance.
It's called "managing expectations".
I just can't seem to justify the change from win7, which works great for me. I don't like 8 and I'm assuming its like 8 on steroids. My laptop is not a touchscreen so what do I need an app based op system for?
Second, while Win8 WAS too much of a touch-screen based product, Win10 is not.
I converted a Lenovo laptop and a tower that I built to Win 10 the week before the official launch. Both worked fine from the start. I converted from Win 8, so i had an extra incentive to upgrade and I am very satisfied.
All this said, I do acknowledge that Win 7 is one of the best operating systems that they ever put out. Win 10 is, in my book, very close to Win 7 in being stable and easy to use.
All this said, I do acknowledge that Win 7 is one of the best operating systems that they ever put out. Win 10 is, in my book, very close to Win 7 in being stable and easy to use.
MS follows the every-other-release rule for their OS's;
Home Platforms
Win 3.1 - Junk
Win 3.11 - Good
Win 95 - Junk
Win 98/98se - Ok
Win Millennium - Junk
Win XP - Good (Industry standard forever...no longer supported)
Win Vista - Junk
Win 7 - Good (Industry standard now)
Win 8 - Junk
Win 10 - Not great, but better than Win 8. If your PC is >2-years old, or has <4GB of RAM, I wouldn't do it. Used this one a bit on a new laptop with pre-installed Win10. Better than I expected after uninstalling the junk out of it. Probably will be industry standard in about 3-years when Win 7 goes out of support.
Pro Platforms
Win NT 3.1 - Junk
Win NT 3.5/3.51 - Ok
Win NT 4 - So so, good server, crummy workstation
Win 2000 - Great
Win 2003 Server - Junk
Win 2008 Server - Good
So the general rule here is go every other release. Skip Win 11 (or whatever it will be called) and take the next one.
Other good rule is wait at least 30-days post-release before installing, I prefer 90-days.
Or skip the whole thing and go to Mac OSX.
Home Platforms
Win 3.1 - Junk
Win 3.11 - Good
Win 95 - Junk
Win 98/98se - Ok
Win Millennium - Junk
Win XP - Good (Industry standard forever...no longer supported)
Win Vista - Junk
Win 7 - Good (Industry standard now)
Win 8 - Junk
Win 10 - Not great, but better than Win 8. If your PC is >2-years old, or has <4GB of RAM, I wouldn't do it. Used this one a bit on a new laptop with pre-installed Win10. Better than I expected after uninstalling the junk out of it. Probably will be industry standard in about 3-years when Win 7 goes out of support.
Pro Platforms
Win NT 3.1 - Junk
Win NT 3.5/3.51 - Ok
Win NT 4 - So so, good server, crummy workstation
Win 2000 - Great
Win 2003 Server - Junk
Win 2008 Server - Good
So the general rule here is go every other release. Skip Win 11 (or whatever it will be called) and take the next one.
Other good rule is wait at least 30-days post-release before installing, I prefer 90-days.
Or skip the whole thing and go to Mac OSX.
Last edited by chrisneu68olds; Mar 27, 2016 at 12:20 PM. Reason: ...
Microsoft ended "Mainstream" support of Windows 7 in January 2015. This means that there will be no further upgrades or improvements. "Extended" lifetime support ends on January 14, 2020, so security patches, etc. will be available until that date. You've got a little less than four years to continue to safely use Windows 7.
There are five computers in our household. Four of the five run Windows 10 with no problems. Three of these four were upgraded from Windows 8.1. The fifth is nearly new and had Windows 10 on it when purchased.
The sound capabilities on the fifth machine wouldn't work (no audio output or input, could not get things to work no matter what I tried--it is the oldest machine, originally came with Windows Vista), so I reinstalled Windows 8.1 on that one, and everything works ok. I figure that when Windows 8 support stops, it will be time to throw that machine away, anyway.
There are five computers in our household. Four of the five run Windows 10 with no problems. Three of these four were upgraded from Windows 8.1. The fifth is nearly new and had Windows 10 on it when purchased.
The sound capabilities on the fifth machine wouldn't work (no audio output or input, could not get things to work no matter what I tried--it is the oldest machine, originally came with Windows Vista), so I reinstalled Windows 8.1 on that one, and everything works ok. I figure that when Windows 8 support stops, it will be time to throw that machine away, anyway.
My computer arbitrarily installed Windows 10 yesterday while I was playing with my car.
I tried to go with it but I couldn't find my shortcuts and it was way slower than before.
But I did find a site that showed me how to uninstall it and go back to Windows 7.
I dare say someone a bit more computer savvy than me could have sorted out the issues, but I resented the way it was installed without consulting me first.
Maybe my next computer will be a Mac.
Roger.
I tried to go with it but I couldn't find my shortcuts and it was way slower than before.
But I did find a site that showed me how to uninstall it and go back to Windows 7.
I dare say someone a bit more computer savvy than me could have sorted out the issues, but I resented the way it was installed without consulting me first.
Maybe my next computer will be a Mac.
Roger.
MS follows the every-other-release rule for their OS's;
Home Platforms
Win 3.1 - Junk
Win 3.11 - Good
Win 95 - Junk
Win 98/98se - Ok
Win Millennium - Junk
Win XP - Good (Industry standard forever...no longer supported)
Win Vista - Junk
Win 7 - Good (Industry standard now)
Win 8 - Junk
Win 10 - Not great, but better than Win 8. If your PC is >2-years old, or has <4GB of RAM, I wouldn't do it. Used this one a bit on a new laptop with pre-installed Win10. Better than I expected after uninstalling the junk out of it. Probably will be industry standard in about 3-years when Win 7 goes out of support.
Pro Platforms
Win NT 3.1 - Junk
Win NT 3.5/3.51 - Ok
Win NT 4 - So so, good server, crummy workstation
Win 2000 - Great
Win 2003 Server - Junk
Win 2008 Server - Good
So the general rule here is go every other release. Skip Win 11 (or whatever it will be called) and take the next one.
Other good rule is wait at least 30-days post-release before installing, I prefer 90-days.
Or skip the whole thing and go to Mac OSX.
Home Platforms
Win 3.1 - Junk
Win 3.11 - Good
Win 95 - Junk
Win 98/98se - Ok
Win Millennium - Junk
Win XP - Good (Industry standard forever...no longer supported)
Win Vista - Junk
Win 7 - Good (Industry standard now)
Win 8 - Junk
Win 10 - Not great, but better than Win 8. If your PC is >2-years old, or has <4GB of RAM, I wouldn't do it. Used this one a bit on a new laptop with pre-installed Win10. Better than I expected after uninstalling the junk out of it. Probably will be industry standard in about 3-years when Win 7 goes out of support.
Pro Platforms
Win NT 3.1 - Junk
Win NT 3.5/3.51 - Ok
Win NT 4 - So so, good server, crummy workstation
Win 2000 - Great
Win 2003 Server - Junk
Win 2008 Server - Good
So the general rule here is go every other release. Skip Win 11 (or whatever it will be called) and take the next one.
Other good rule is wait at least 30-days post-release before installing, I prefer 90-days.
Or skip the whole thing and go to Mac OSX.
Jaunty, thanks for the notes on timing. I will run 7 for a couple more years until I build new machines and go to 10.
My last computer before Vista was a Commodor 64 in the 80s. We use 7 at work and can not update to 10 because our product is not set up for it yet. Won't likely be set for anything new for at least a couple years. Our product went from XP to 7 and will likely skip 10 also.
My primary desktop is a 1996 Mac Pro, still going strong although it can only run 10.7 which Apple stopped supporting some time ago. Photoshop, video editing, bookkeeping, internet, Word, Excel, etc. Still too fast and trouble free to consider replacing.
My secondary is a 2013 MacBook Pro, fully updated. I don't like the OS as much as 10.7, but I can run newer browsers.
I finally broke down and got a cellphone, iPhone 6+.
My wife uses a matching 1996 Mac Pro, an 2013 iPad, and an iPhone 6.
The desktops I bought used on ebay for about $650 apiece, although I did eventually upgrade the hard drives to a total of 10 terabytes. They replaced a pair of ten-year-old Mac Pro G4s. The laptop and iPad I got from a work-related grant.
Our biggest problem in a decade has been that her iPad wouldn't connect to the house wifi unless I gave it a static ip address. No viruses, no malware, no problems.
We use Windows XP at work, as little as possible because we get tired of calling the IT guy.
My secondary is a 2013 MacBook Pro, fully updated. I don't like the OS as much as 10.7, but I can run newer browsers.
I finally broke down and got a cellphone, iPhone 6+.
My wife uses a matching 1996 Mac Pro, an 2013 iPad, and an iPhone 6.
The desktops I bought used on ebay for about $650 apiece, although I did eventually upgrade the hard drives to a total of 10 terabytes. They replaced a pair of ten-year-old Mac Pro G4s. The laptop and iPad I got from a work-related grant.
Our biggest problem in a decade has been that her iPad wouldn't connect to the house wifi unless I gave it a static ip address. No viruses, no malware, no problems.
We use Windows XP at work, as little as possible because we get tired of calling the IT guy.
My advice: Pay close attention to the privacy settings when installing Windows 10.
I've been part of this program from the beginning and liked the fact that collective input was being used to shape this product: https://insider.windows.com/
I've been part of this program from the beginning and liked the fact that collective input was being used to shape this product: https://insider.windows.com/
I just had a battle with win-10 being forced on me. Had Win7. Article in newspaper today said peeps are complaining about this. Decided to see what happens and let it continue loading. 10 hours and was still updating. Forced a shutdown, used Never 10 to stop upgrade and remove Win 10 files. I ain't a computer savvy guy, don't game, do video, just want a simple research and communication device.
Oh, did I say my net connection is sloooow? Not dial-up, but the neighbor on one side cannot get anything but dial-up, meaning I am on the end of the line. Sometimes I can't stream music.
Oh, did I say my net connection is sloooow? Not dial-up, but the neighbor on one side cannot get anything but dial-up, meaning I am on the end of the line. Sometimes I can't stream music.
I'm old and resist change. I also know very little about computers, barley enough to do some basic surfing. If I have problems I take it to the shop I trust. I still have a laptop with XP that is good. I have a Win 7 desktop which is fine. And the one I am now using is a Win 8 machine which I never liked. The Win 8 machine was always slow and I hated the edge sensors or whatever they are called, get too close to edge, top or bottom get BS thrown at me. Yuk.
Well my Win 8 machine updated to 10. I suppose I messed up my regimen of telling it not to get 10 somehow. Whatever I messed up, one morning I had Win 10 and had to allow it to finish installation with my help.
But.
I love Win 10! This machine which now has 10 is FAST for the first time. And no edge BS going on. The big mistake has been the very best thing this machine has ever done. I am so happy with my laptop now.
Being dumb about computers made it difficult for me to find Internet Explorer on this 10 stuff and I didn't like the Microsoft Edge stuff it wanted to use. Edge does not allow Norton antivirus to run. I finally found IE and got it going and shut off Edge. Now all is great.
Well my Win 8 machine updated to 10. I suppose I messed up my regimen of telling it not to get 10 somehow. Whatever I messed up, one morning I had Win 10 and had to allow it to finish installation with my help.
But.
I love Win 10! This machine which now has 10 is FAST for the first time. And no edge BS going on. The big mistake has been the very best thing this machine has ever done. I am so happy with my laptop now.
Being dumb about computers made it difficult for me to find Internet Explorer on this 10 stuff and I didn't like the Microsoft Edge stuff it wanted to use. Edge does not allow Norton antivirus to run. I finally found IE and got it going and shut off Edge. Now all is great.
I upgraded my wife's laptop from Win-7 to W-10, she likes it, says it is much faster. I played around a little and it does have a learning curve for the new format and how the new structure is layed out. Just repetition is all it will take...and browsing quite a few how-to articles to ease the pain of learning.
Correct, but keep in mind that the free upgrade to Windows 10 for users of Windows 7 or 8 expires on July 29, 2016. You have about two months to take advantage of the free upgrade (once you buy Windows 7). After July 29, it'll be $120 (or thereabouts, depending on the vendor) for Windows 10 no matter which previous version of Windows you have.
Keep in mind that Microsoft stopped supporting Windows XP on April 8, 2014, so it has now been more than two years since there have been any patches or security updates issued for Windows XP. By continuing to use a computer running Windows XP and connected to the internet, you run the risk of infiltration by hackers, viruses, and who knows what else. There is no good reason, from a computer security and safety standpoint, to continue to run Windows XP. For less than $50, you can buy a new copy of Windows 7 and install it.
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Windows 7 "mainstream" support ended on January 13, 2015. That means that there are no new features or bug patches or anything like that being issued, but security updates will continue for Windows 7 until January 14, 2020, so you're safe using that operating system for about another 3.5 years.
If I had a computer running Windows XP or Vista and didn't want to upgrade to Windows 10, I would go out and buy Windows 8.1 and install that. Mainstream support for Windows 8.1 doesn't end until January 9, 2018, and security updates for Windows 8.1 will continue to be issued until January 10, 2023, or about 6.5 years from now.
8.1 is a bit more than 7, but here's a site selling it for $65.
https://www.simply-software.com/oper...YY_xoCDnzw_wcB
http://product.key-downloader.com/wi...-WHxoC9yHw_wcB
Windows 7 "mainstream" support ended on January 13, 2015. That means that there are no new features or bug patches or anything like that being issued, but security updates will continue for Windows 7 until January 14, 2020, so you're safe using that operating system for about another 3.5 years.
If I had a computer running Windows XP or Vista and didn't want to upgrade to Windows 10, I would go out and buy Windows 8.1 and install that. Mainstream support for Windows 8.1 doesn't end until January 9, 2018, and security updates for Windows 8.1 will continue to be issued until January 10, 2023, or about 6.5 years from now.
8.1 is a bit more than 7, but here's a site selling it for $65.
https://www.simply-software.com/oper...YY_xoCDnzw_wcB
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