About dadgum time.
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Oldsdruid
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From: Southside Vajenya
About dadgum time.
This afternoon is the first time I've been able to get in CO since last Wednesday. It's still running awful slow but at least I've been able to log in, read and post without that annoying "Firefox cannot find the server" page.
I could access any other site I wanted on either Firefox or Explorer, so only thing I can figure is either my IP was blocked for whatever unknown reason, or it had to do with a recent Ad-Aware or Windows update. Both of those updated again today, and suddenly I could get back into Classic Oldsmobile.
'Course by that time I'd cleaned out all my bookmarks, cookies etc thinking that had something to do with it.
And yes, doggone it, I missed y'all.
I could access any other site I wanted on either Firefox or Explorer, so only thing I can figure is either my IP was blocked for whatever unknown reason, or it had to do with a recent Ad-Aware or Windows update. Both of those updated again today, and suddenly I could get back into Classic Oldsmobile.
'Course by that time I'd cleaned out all my bookmarks, cookies etc thinking that had something to do with it.
And yes, doggone it, I missed y'all.
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So what happens when you install that chrome thing? Demands personal info? Dumps ads everywhere? Alters EI or other programs? I want to go back to EI if I do not like chrome.
I have thought of installing it for just troubleshooting, but I'm afraid it will botch other stuff up or hold all my files for ransom or something. The bigger companies get, the less I trust them, especially for 'free' stuff.
I have thought of installing it for just troubleshooting, but I'm afraid it will botch other stuff up or hold all my files for ransom or something. The bigger companies get, the less I trust them, especially for 'free' stuff.
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From: Rathdrum, Idano
Rob
I use firefox and have never had any problems. I used to use explorer but keep getting to many viruses. CO ran fine on both systems. I believe the problem you having is within you computers not the program.
Call the geek squad and have one of them take a look could be and IP address problem
I use firefox and have never had any problems. I used to use explorer but keep getting to many viruses. CO ran fine on both systems. I believe the problem you having is within you computers not the program.
Call the geek squad and have one of them take a look could be and IP address problem
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Rob, open a dos prompt and type "tracert 67.201.16.65" and hit enter. If it makes it past your router, probably something like 192.168.1.1, and then starts saying Request Timed Out it's probably your ISP. If it makes it there OK, then IE is probably hosed. If firefox or chrome work it's IE. Both firefox and chrome will install without changing your browser default from IE if you want them to. And they will also un-install themselves nicely when you're done testing.
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Thanks - I will try this when i get home.
When i try at work, it displays 7 different addresses, then starts the timed out messages.
Anything in particular that i am supposed to get?
When i try at work, it displays 7 different addresses, then starts the timed out messages.
Anything in particular that i am supposed to get?
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Tracing route to autoforumuniverse.com [67.201.16.65] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms some.ipaddress.com [xx.xxx.xx.xx] 2 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms te3-1.3802.ccr02.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com [38.20.48.181] 3 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms te7-1.mpd01.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.7.249] 4 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms te2-1.mpd01.dfw03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.7.46] 5 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms te-3-2.car3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.110.109] 6 3 ms 1 ms 1 ms ae-93-90.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.145.244] 7 48 ms 50 ms 54 ms ae-3-3.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.132.77] 8 72 ms 76 ms 180 ms ae-31-80.car1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.131] 9 49 ms 49 ms 50 ms INTERNET-BR.car1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.59.56.162] 10 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 67.201.17.150 11 47 ms 48 ms 48 ms autoforumuniverse.com [67.201.16.65] Trace complete.
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Thanks - I will try it when i get home. I did not even look at the computer yesterday - was out chatting with the neighbors, drinking some beers.
Not sure why my work computer timed out - I can get the site fine here.
Not sure why my work computer timed out - I can get the site fine here.
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It was a good one - thousands os pictures, too! I have only sorted the the first 1/3 though... Unfortunately i am putting my work first... 
I need to somehow post the videos from the ziplines I rode up in the forest - the camera (with wide angle lens) captured it the way I saw it!
Some were tree to ground, some tree to tree and the last was from 75' up in a tree to the ground - a fast one for sure!
Loads of fun but those 2 weeks felt like 3 days...
I need to somehow post the videos from the ziplines I rode up in the forest - the camera (with wide angle lens) captured it the way I saw it!
Some were tree to ground, some tree to tree and the last was from 75' up in a tree to the ground - a fast one for sure! Loads of fun but those 2 weeks felt like 3 days...
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Okay, I tried this and got all the way to autoforumuniverse.
So that means EI is hosed, right?
I will see what I can do with it... Maybe I will try the chrome thing for temporary.
It is soo stange my problem started all of a sudden on 2 computers, one that had not even been powered up for 6 months!
My work PC has the same version of EI but still works - uh - fine...
So that means EI is hosed, right?
I will see what I can do with it... Maybe I will try the chrome thing for temporary.
It is soo stange my problem started all of a sudden on 2 computers, one that had not even been powered up for 6 months!
My work PC has the same version of EI but still works - uh - fine...
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From: Irving, TX
***Warning, this could hurt****
You can follow these steps to backup your favorites and restore IE to it's default settings to see if that helps. If you have any cookies that log you into sites automatically, you'll have to know what your password is to get back in. Any special ActiveX or other plugins will probably go away (This may not be a bad thing actually.)
1. Reset IE settings to default:
a. Start IE
b. Click File, and then click Import and Export.
c. Follow the steps in the wizard to export your Favorites.
d. Click Tools, and then click Internet Options.
e. Click Advanced, and then click Reset.
See if that does it.
You can follow these steps to backup your favorites and restore IE to it's default settings to see if that helps. If you have any cookies that log you into sites automatically, you'll have to know what your password is to get back in. Any special ActiveX or other plugins will probably go away (This may not be a bad thing actually.)
1. Reset IE settings to default:
a. Start IE
b. Click File, and then click Import and Export.
c. Follow the steps in the wizard to export your Favorites.
d. Click Tools, and then click Internet Options.
e. Click Advanced, and then click Reset.
See if that does it.
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I think I reset it already, but will try again.
Favs are stored on a memory card, cookies are often deleted, no form data or passwords are stored, temp files are dumped routinely. Shouldn't hurt... You can tell i trust MS, huh...
BTW, did you ever see my first post on this issue? Anything in there give a clue to what could have happened?
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...ite-gurus.html
Favs are stored on a memory card, cookies are often deleted, no form data or passwords are stored, temp files are dumped routinely. Shouldn't hurt... You can tell i trust MS, huh...
BTW, did you ever see my first post on this issue? Anything in there give a clue to what could have happened?
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...ite-gurus.html
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This could be something else in your windows profile too. If doing the IE reset doesn't work, reboot and start hitting F8 when you see the Dell logo until you get to the boot choice screen and go into safe mode. Once that's booted up, you'll be logged in as administrator instead of yourself. Go to "C:\documents and settings" and look for the folder with whatever you picked as a user name ( It should be at the top of the start menu normally.) Then just rename that folder. Put an _ or something like that at the end of it. When you reboot and log in again, windows won't find the old folder and will just create a new profile for you. If IE is working again, just go to the folder with an _ on it and copy your My Documents, Desktop, and Favorites folder to the new on to get your files back where they belong. I've had to do this on a few PCs where Office or something else just went nuts and it normally works.
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Forgot to mention, in your original screen shot it looked like you were using an older version of IE. I'm not a real big fan of 7 and 8, but they've stopped doing a lot of security patches to the older versions and a lot websites have started putting in code that doesn't work with the older versions.
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Okay, I will try that, too.
My work computer uses version 6 as well as both of my home computers. The work machine works fine.
Any way to check exactly what updates are on each copy of IE? Maybe my home systems are missing something... The work machine is always updated automatically. My home machine not as often...
Forgot to mention, in your original screen shot it looked like you were using an older version of IE. I'm not a real big fan of 7 and 8, but they've stopped doing a lot of security patches to the older versions and a lot websites have started putting in code that doesn't work with the older versions.
Any way to check exactly what updates are on each copy of IE? Maybe my home systems are missing something... The work machine is always updated automatically. My home machine not as often...
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There is no easy way to tell what IE patches have been installed. If you go to Add/Remove programs under the Control Panel you can select "Show Updates" at the top. That will give you the KB number of all the updates installed. It helps if you're looking for one in particular, or want to compare the two PCs. I would go to Windows Update and select everything but IE8 and put a check mark by "Don't show this update again" and let it install everything. Do it again and you'll see IE7 on the list and you can tell it to ignore that one too. Then you'll be able to update Windows without getting the newer versions of IE on there.
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From: Rathdrum, Idano
There is no easy way to tell what IE patches have been installed. If you go to Add/Remove programs under the Control Panel you can select "Show Updates" at the top. That will give you the KB number of all the updates installed. It helps if you're looking for one in particular, or want to compare the two PCs. I would go to Windows Update and select everything but IE8 and put a check mark by "Don't show this update again" and let it install everything. Do it again and you'll see IE7 on the list and you can tell it to ignore that one too. Then you'll be able to update Windows without getting the newer versions of IE on there.
HUH???? do what??? Add/Remove??? I'm lost
Shoot me now
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Just remember that sometimes it's necessary to force an unexpected unload of the random access memory. It has to be unexpected so that the volatile memory doesn't get a chance to write data to the steady state magnetic, solid state or optical devices and cause further corruption.
In other words, when Windows messes up, pull the plug and 90% of the time that will fix it when you plug it back in.
In other words, when Windows messes up, pull the plug and 90% of the time that will fix it when you plug it back in.
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Just remember that sometimes it's necessary to force an unexpected unload of the random access memory. It has to be unexpected so that the volatile memory doesn't get a chance to write data to the steady state magnetic, solid state or optical devices and cause further corruption.
In other words, when Windows messes up, pull the plug and 90% of the time that will fix it when you plug it back in.
In other words, when Windows messes up, pull the plug and 90% of the time that will fix it when you plug it back in.
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Just remember that sometimes it's necessary to force an unexpected unload of the random access memory. It has to be unexpected so that the volatile memory doesn't get a chance to write data to the steady state magnetic, solid state or optical devices and cause further corruption.
In other words, when Windows messes up, pull the plug and 90% of the time that will fix it when you plug it back in.
In other words, when Windows messes up, pull the plug and 90% of the time that will fix it when you plug it back in.
Don
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A DOS prompt is an ancient Bill Gates (The Inventor of the Personal Computer) routine to enable us gurus to get into the inner workings of our machines and really screw things up!
On a serious note, however, I run three machines and I don't have one piece of Apple software installed on any machine. How many Windows applications are you running?
--Don
On a serious note, however, I run three machines and I don't have one piece of Apple software installed on any machine. How many Windows applications are you running?
--Don
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Well, I do have to use microsqaush at work. And it is OK, because they have people there to come tend to the problems when they occur. We could do better on a mac base with freeware for some stuff, but they'd rather spend pennies on hardware and boatloads on software licenses.
At home, I don't care how the innards work, and there is no tech line for help. I want to plug the machine in, turn it on, and use it, with as little muss and fuss as possible. I bought my first Mac laptop in 1993. It had a massive 4 mb of RAM (and I think a 156 mb hard drive). I am on my 4th Mac at present (27" iMac), and all of them still work, although the oldest one has been retired.
The Macs work great for me, and as a bonus they look good (kind of like my 69 H/O in that respect!). I'm an old Oldsmobile guy--I'll pay more for better design and engineering!
At home, I don't care how the innards work, and there is no tech line for help. I want to plug the machine in, turn it on, and use it, with as little muss and fuss as possible. I bought my first Mac laptop in 1993. It had a massive 4 mb of RAM (and I think a 156 mb hard drive). I am on my 4th Mac at present (27" iMac), and all of them still work, although the oldest one has been retired.
The Macs work great for me, and as a bonus they look good (kind of like my 69 H/O in that respect!). I'm an old Oldsmobile guy--I'll pay more for better design and engineering!
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Macs are great for the home as long as you don't have kids that like to play video games. Well built machines that hold up pretty good over time. The down side to that is cost. Apple thinks that all that aluminum in their case is actually gold and charge for it. Unfortunately for businesses and graphics artists they've fallen pretty far behind. Apple has pretty much given up on compatibility with Windows networks after XP and their slow progress to 64bit has hurt them in the graphics field. It really sucks to open a 12MB raw file in Photoshop on the Mac and start playing with layers and filters. It's really easy to get over the 4GB memory limit of a 32bit program doing this.
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I do like Macs because they're based on BSD. I cut my teeth on IRIX, VMS, True64, HPUX and AIX. SunOS was fun before they went to SlowLaris 
Rob, I think I've got an old SGI Indigo that you could use to connect to CO from home with R4000 CPU with a whopping 4MB of RAM
Rob, I think I've got an old SGI Indigo that you could use to connect to CO from home with R4000 CPU with a whopping 4MB of RAM
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I still have an abandoned windows nt system here at work - it is so outdated I cannot even get rid of it by following procedure...
Janitor will not allow it in the trash, too old to be upgraded, 5S rules prevents me from taking it to storage...
Trade??
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