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Old November 12th, 2016, 07:02 PM
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Craigslist for sale. Pace car

Not mine, posting for others to see. Near Indy.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/5870059978.html

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Very rare car, only 358 Indianapolis 500 Pace Car Convertibles produced in 1970. Only 60 of the 358 were built with the 350/315 horse power engine. Automatic, bench seat, power steering, power brakes, and air conditioning. This a Y74 Option Pace Car designation. Car ran when stored--approximately 15 years ago. Needs total restorsation. See photos for current condition. Car located approximately one hour South of Indianapolis.


Not sure where the seller gets his "facts"
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Old November 13th, 2016, 11:42 AM
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Second time I have seen this one posted. I don't think it's worth more than $1500, and that's being nice. It would cost a TON more than the car is worth to restore it and make right.
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Old November 13th, 2016, 12:10 PM
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Parts car at this point. IMHO. If it were a 442, different story.
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At least it has the OAI air cleaner base still. That is the best thing going for it.
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The SS1 rims & the sport mirrors are desirable parts too but the car is a parts car for sure.
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Originally Posted by oldsmobiledave
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Very rare car, only 358 Indianapolis 500 Pace Car Convertibles produced in 1970. Only 60 of the 358 were built with the 350/315 horse power engine. Automatic, bench seat, power steering, power brakes, and air conditioning. This a Y74 Option Pace Car designation. Car ran when stored--approximately 15 years ago. Needs total restorsation. See photos for current condition. Car located approximately one hour South of Indianapolis.


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http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/car-of-...y-500-pace-car
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Old November 14th, 2016, 06:41 PM
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Some of the "facts" in that article are wrong. The 350 was 310 hp, not 315. The pace car package did not include power windows, power trunk, & several of the other listed goodies.
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Doesn't look like a track car based on this list (http://www.442.com/tech/70pacecar.html) and the VIN posted on the door. Wonder if the W-25 hood is still present with the car.
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Old November 15th, 2016, 10:40 AM
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Wonder if the W-25 hood is still present with the car.
The hood is gone. I checked it out in person
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Old December 6th, 2016, 06:03 PM
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It's not worth a nut-and-bolt, frame-off resto, but why not put a few thousand into a cosmetic restoration? Repro quarters, patch panels, repro hood, chose wisely on a budget local body man, I think you could have a decent weekend driver that's a real Y74. I certainly wouldn't look down on it for not being a show winner.
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Old December 7th, 2016, 05:34 PM
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Buying it?

Originally Posted by Hurst/Olds 73/74
It's not worth a nut-and-bolt, frame-off resto, but why not put a few thousand into a cosmetic restoration? Repro quarters, patch panels, repro hood, chose wisely on a budget local body man, I think you could have a decent weekend driver that's a real Y74. I certainly wouldn't look down on it for not being a show winner.
So....when do you take possession?
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Old December 8th, 2016, 12:31 PM
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So....when do you take possession?
I didn't realize I needed to make a purchase to have an opinion on this board. I already have a pace car project and don't need to tackle another one, nor do I want to spend $5500 on that particular one. I just see a lot of people on this board comment "parts car" when they see something that's a major project. I also have noticed a few elitists in the Oldsmobile hobby that look down their nose at a W-30 as worthless junk if it doesn't have all of the paperwork, or is missing its F heads. I have done some cost-effective, cosmetic restos on vehicles that some wouldn't bother with. Not every savable car is worth a $50K restoration, but it doesn't mean it's not worth saving with a more low-buck, cosmetic restoration. My first project was this 1973 Plymouth Road Runner. By the time I was done, I had $4K in it, including the $1K purchase price. A local guy did the bodywork and paint for $1K, I did the assembly, interior, and stripes myself. Another project was this 1977 Dodge Power Wagon. $600 for the truck at the county auction, $200 for wheels and tires from a local towing yard, I did the bodywork, and a friend painted it for $500. Another $300 in stripes and the total investment at the end was $1600. Neither of these vehicles were $50K cars, so I used my head and didn't do nut-and-bolt restos on them. However, both vehicles were saved without spending a lot of money and, as far as i know, both vehicles are still on the road. (The Road Runner went to Mississippi years ago and the Power Wagon I still own and drive 13 years later) I don't think that Y74 Cutlass is worth a $50K restoration, but I do think, that on some level, it should be saved.
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Originally Posted by Hurst/Olds 73/74
I didn't realize I needed to make a purchase to have an opinion on this board. I already have a pace car project and don't need to tackle another one, nor do I want to spend $5500 on that particular one. I just see a lot of people on this board comment "parts car" when they see something that's a major project. I also have noticed a few elitists in the Oldsmobile hobby that look down their nose at a W-30 as worthless junk if it doesn't have all of the paperwork, or is missing its F heads. I have done some cost-effective, cosmetic restos on vehicles that some wouldn't bother with. Not every savable car is worth a $50K restoration, but it doesn't mean it's not worth saving with a more low-buck, cosmetic restoration. My first project was this 1973 Plymouth Road Runner. By the time I was done, I had $4K in it, including the $1K purchase price. A local guy did the bodywork and paint for $1K, I did the assembly, interior, and stripes myself. Another project was this 1977 Dodge Power Wagon. $600 for the truck at the county auction, $200 for wheels and tires from a local towing yard, I did the bodywork, and a friend painted it for $500. Another $300 in stripes and the total investment at the end was $1600. Neither of these vehicles were $50K cars, so I used my head and didn't do nut-and-bolt restos on them. However, both vehicles were saved without spending a lot of money and, as far as i know, both vehicles are still on the road. (The Road Runner went to Mississippi years ago and the Power Wagon I still own and drive 13 years later) I don't think that Y74 Cutlass is worth a $50K restoration, but I do think, that on some level, it should be saved.
I agree with what you are saying about saving this car as a driver condition and not a show car. If i had the cash which i don't. I would look into it. When Feb 2018 rolls around then i can work on my junk again Yeah.
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Old December 9th, 2016, 06:44 PM
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Whats the market for one of these in good condition? Cool car but is such poor shape. Not a big fan of the column shifter and bench seat (at least not since my high school days).
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Unreal how people treat their cars like this! Accidents happen but man, why is it always the rare cars that get pounded!
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Old February 19th, 2017, 12:59 PM
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Looks like this pace car went from Southern Indiana to Lansing, MI.

https://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/5977127100.html
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Originally Posted by 70-Olds-442-convt
Looks like this pace car went from Southern Indiana to Lansing, MI.

https://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/5977127100.html
The car for sale in Lansing is a different pace car.
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