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Old Nov 12, 2016 | 07:02 PM
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Craigslist for sale. Pace car

Not mine, posting for others to see. Near Indy.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/5870059978.html

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Old Nov 13, 2016 | 06:19 AM
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Very rare car, only 358 Indianapolis 500 Pace Car Convertibles produced in 1970. Only 60 of the 358 were built with the 350/315 horse power engine. Automatic, bench seat, power steering, power brakes, and air conditioning. This a Y74 Option Pace Car designation. Car ran when stored--approximately 15 years ago. Needs total restorsation. See photos for current condition. Car located approximately one hour South of Indianapolis.


Not sure where the seller gets his "facts"
Old Nov 13, 2016 | 11:42 AM
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Second time I have seen this one posted. I don't think it's worth more than $1500, and that's being nice. It would cost a TON more than the car is worth to restore it and make right.
Old Nov 13, 2016 | 12:10 PM
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Parts car at this point. IMHO. If it were a 442, different story.
Old Nov 13, 2016 | 01:46 PM
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At least it has the OAI air cleaner base still. That is the best thing going for it.
Old Nov 13, 2016 | 02:38 PM
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The SS1 rims & the sport mirrors are desirable parts too but the car is a parts car for sure.
Old Nov 14, 2016 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by oldsmobiledave
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Very rare car, only 358 Indianapolis 500 Pace Car Convertibles produced in 1970. Only 60 of the 358 were built with the 350/315 horse power engine. Automatic, bench seat, power steering, power brakes, and air conditioning. This a Y74 Option Pace Car designation. Car ran when stored--approximately 15 years ago. Needs total restorsation. See photos for current condition. Car located approximately one hour South of Indianapolis.


Not sure where the seller gets his "facts"
http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/car-of-...y-500-pace-car
Old Nov 14, 2016 | 06:41 PM
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Some of the "facts" in that article are wrong. The 350 was 310 hp, not 315. The pace car package did not include power windows, power trunk, & several of the other listed goodies.
Old Nov 15, 2016 | 08:37 AM
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Doesn't look like a track car based on this list (http://www.442.com/tech/70pacecar.html) and the VIN posted on the door. Wonder if the W-25 hood is still present with the car.
Old Nov 15, 2016 | 10:40 AM
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Wonder if the W-25 hood is still present with the car.
The hood is gone. I checked it out in person
Old Nov 18, 2016 | 07:48 AM
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Old Dec 6, 2016 | 06:03 PM
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It's not worth a nut-and-bolt, frame-off resto, but why not put a few thousand into a cosmetic restoration? Repro quarters, patch panels, repro hood, chose wisely on a budget local body man, I think you could have a decent weekend driver that's a real Y74. I certainly wouldn't look down on it for not being a show winner.
Old Dec 7, 2016 | 05:42 AM
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Old Dec 7, 2016 | 05:34 PM
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Buying it?

Originally Posted by Hurst/Olds 73/74
It's not worth a nut-and-bolt, frame-off resto, but why not put a few thousand into a cosmetic restoration? Repro quarters, patch panels, repro hood, chose wisely on a budget local body man, I think you could have a decent weekend driver that's a real Y74. I certainly wouldn't look down on it for not being a show winner.
So....when do you take possession?
Old Dec 8, 2016 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by oldsmobiledave
So....when do you take possession?
I didn't realize I needed to make a purchase to have an opinion on this board. I already have a pace car project and don't need to tackle another one, nor do I want to spend $5500 on that particular one. I just see a lot of people on this board comment "parts car" when they see something that's a major project. I also have noticed a few elitists in the Oldsmobile hobby that look down their nose at a W-30 as worthless junk if it doesn't have all of the paperwork, or is missing its F heads. I have done some cost-effective, cosmetic restos on vehicles that some wouldn't bother with. Not every savable car is worth a $50K restoration, but it doesn't mean it's not worth saving with a more low-buck, cosmetic restoration. My first project was this 1973 Plymouth Road Runner. By the time I was done, I had $4K in it, including the $1K purchase price. A local guy did the bodywork and paint for $1K, I did the assembly, interior, and stripes myself. Another project was this 1977 Dodge Power Wagon. $600 for the truck at the county auction, $200 for wheels and tires from a local towing yard, I did the bodywork, and a friend painted it for $500. Another $300 in stripes and the total investment at the end was $1600. Neither of these vehicles were $50K cars, so I used my head and didn't do nut-and-bolt restos on them. However, both vehicles were saved without spending a lot of money and, as far as i know, both vehicles are still on the road. (The Road Runner went to Mississippi years ago and the Power Wagon I still own and drive 13 years later) I don't think that Y74 Cutlass is worth a $50K restoration, but I do think, that on some level, it should be saved.
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Hurst/Olds 73/74
I didn't realize I needed to make a purchase to have an opinion on this board. I already have a pace car project and don't need to tackle another one, nor do I want to spend $5500 on that particular one. I just see a lot of people on this board comment "parts car" when they see something that's a major project. I also have noticed a few elitists in the Oldsmobile hobby that look down their nose at a W-30 as worthless junk if it doesn't have all of the paperwork, or is missing its F heads. I have done some cost-effective, cosmetic restos on vehicles that some wouldn't bother with. Not every savable car is worth a $50K restoration, but it doesn't mean it's not worth saving with a more low-buck, cosmetic restoration. My first project was this 1973 Plymouth Road Runner. By the time I was done, I had $4K in it, including the $1K purchase price. A local guy did the bodywork and paint for $1K, I did the assembly, interior, and stripes myself. Another project was this 1977 Dodge Power Wagon. $600 for the truck at the county auction, $200 for wheels and tires from a local towing yard, I did the bodywork, and a friend painted it for $500. Another $300 in stripes and the total investment at the end was $1600. Neither of these vehicles were $50K cars, so I used my head and didn't do nut-and-bolt restos on them. However, both vehicles were saved without spending a lot of money and, as far as i know, both vehicles are still on the road. (The Road Runner went to Mississippi years ago and the Power Wagon I still own and drive 13 years later) I don't think that Y74 Cutlass is worth a $50K restoration, but I do think, that on some level, it should be saved.
I agree with what you are saying about saving this car as a driver condition and not a show car. If i had the cash which i don't. I would look into it. When Feb 2018 rolls around then i can work on my junk again Yeah.
Old Dec 9, 2016 | 06:44 PM
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Whats the market for one of these in good condition? Cool car but is such poor shape. Not a big fan of the column shifter and bench seat (at least not since my high school days).
Old Dec 17, 2016 | 06:35 PM
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Unreal how people treat their cars like this! Accidents happen but man, why is it always the rare cars that get pounded!
Old Feb 19, 2017 | 12:59 PM
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Looks like this pace car went from Southern Indiana to Lansing, MI.

https://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/5977127100.html
Old Feb 19, 2017 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 70-Olds-442-convt
Looks like this pace car went from Southern Indiana to Lansing, MI.

https://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/5977127100.html
The car for sale in Lansing is a different pace car.
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