Hi we have been looking for more muscle and a came across this ad for a 1969 442 does any one know anything about this car? I hope I linked to it correctly.



http://columbiamo.craigslist.org/cto/2803551207.html

 

It looks pretty good but I don't think it's a 442 with that VIN: 33687LAN217200

 

Definately check the VIN - I got all excited when I found the following:

http://www.mrjsmotors.net/1970_Oldsm..._146407649.veh

Only to find out it is a cutlass with 442 badges

 

The cowl tag only lets you know it is from Fisher body.
If it is a real 442, the vin on the dash should read: 344687...
Some telltale signs that it could be are the door panel rockets,
glovebox, rear cutout bumper, correct taillights, correct grills.
However I don't see it being a W-30. It has a few nice parts though.
A dual gate shifter from a 70-72 is not correct at all.
It does look good from the outside though. Can't go wrong with Crager SS wheels.

 

In both cases, you don't have to go any farther than the VIN. Neither is a 442.

 

According to the VIN they have listed its a Cutlass, but they may have copied it from the cowl. Also by looking at the under carriage and engine bay this does not appear to be a restored car. However thie int and ext look very nice and probably worth around their asking price if it runs well.

 

well lets see, it has a 455 so the motor has been changed. the motor leaks oil top and bottom. the drivers door does not fit right. the wing and rear cover were added. most of the car looks pretty tired top and bottom. need the actual vin on the dash to know what it is. based on that I think it is way over priced. I sold my '68 442 which was a matching number car in much nicer shape than this on for $11,500. I wanted more but that is what if brought on a cash sale. I had tons of lookers but that is what the car was worth to a real buyer. everyone wants too much money for average cars and there are a lot of them out there. I think you can find a better car for less if you keep looking.

 

The couldn't have copied the VIN from the cowl tag, as the VIN is not on the cowl tag.
I don't know which one you are referring to, but the Craigslist ad specifically says "model: 442" which is flat out wrong, and the dealer ad referenced says "Cutlass 442" which is contradictory at best.

 

Thank you every one! We will keep looking.

 

There are much better cars out there for that money.

 

I've been looking long and hard myself for a good deal. I see many of the same cars still for sale a year later! Many of the sellers just won't drop the price....I guess they probably don't want to get rid of it that badly.

I didn't even notice the '70's console....should have been an easy thing to spot. I saw this '69 442 the other day that looks really nice....I think. It's a little more money but way better shape and it's a 4-speed!
http://classiccars.com/listing-29417...owa-52806.html

 

OK, I just looked at the ad and if it's not too far away I think you should look at it. What is posted as the vin is actually the trim tag number. The vin isn't posted anywhere in the ad or shown in the pictures. The car has C heads, which could be on a 400 or 455 or even a 425. The car has OAI which is a very interesting detail, but that's not mentioned in the ad. Does the owner really know much about this car? Yes, use a fine tooth comb to see what is and isn't there, but either the 1968 or 69 442 has been documented as having some trim tags that don't start with 344... I don't remember which year. So it could be a real 442 and it could even have the correct engine in it. If I were looking for a car I'd check this one out. My 2 cents worth. John

 

Definitely looks better, ask for the VIN to verify that it is a 442, if so, does VIN derivitive on block match up.

 

On another note... this one is in my home town. I know nothing about it, but if someone were interested I could look at it in person and let you know what's there. John

http://medford.craigslist.org/cto/2714011522.html

 

Whoa! Thanks, John. I didn't notice that *was* the body tag number. My bad, I didn't pay close enough attention to see that it wasn't a VIN. For some reason, the pics didn't pop up the first time I looked at it.
I agree with John 100%. If you're interested, I'd check it out in person. That car could very well be worth the $$.

 

I appreciate all the comments and will check into it further, we are in Northern Wisconsin and the car is in Missouri, so a quick trip to check it out may not happen. Why can't the cars I want to look at be closer? Thanks everyone!

 

The car posted by MKII is a clone, a very well done one, but has a cutlass vin. I talked to the previous owner when it was listed on CL for $8000. I was about to get ready to go look at it when he read me the vin number. It is actually a Cutlass Supreme. He had the car since the early 90s in it's current state and had no idea.

 

You are right not worth it, well I'm sure it would take that much money to fix up a car and add some of the options it has but definitely not worth it if you are looking for a completed driver or a car to fix up yourself. Too many things wrong. I see so many fake 442s with the emblem on the deck-lid key hole and they have the column shift speedo.

Again nothing wrong with making the car "yours" but this is an expensive starting point - clearly they are trying to pass it on as a 442

 

He dropped $1000 to $11,500:
http://stlouis.ebayclassifieds.com/c...0/?ad=16515915