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Old May 19th, 2016, 10:50 PM
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1972 442 w30

I have up for sale a real 1972 442 W30. It has GM of Canada documentation and the all important X in the VIN. The car runs and drives, but is in need of restoration. The car's original colour is Radiant Green, with white interior. It is buckets, console and a 3:73 rear end posi gear ratio. The car does not have AC. It still sports all of its original sheet metal, but the original motor and transmission were replaced by the previous owner. The frame at some point was repaired at the right front corner. I have key parts available for this car to the buyer. There are few un-restored cars left out there and I believe if you wanted a real W30, this car would make a great candidate. I have many photos, and would be happy to answer all questions. I would rather not sell, but have multiple cars on the go.
The car is located just east of Vancouver B.C.
I am Asking $7500 USD.
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What color was the top suppose to be? I don't think I've seen a radiant green 442 before. Googled it and wow, thats a bright color. Cool project. Good luck with the sale.
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Radiant

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What color was the top suppose to be? I don't think I've seen a radiant green 442 before. Googled it and wow, thats a bright color. Cool project. Good luck with the sale.
Really? These have been on here many times.


This is my Radiant Green 1972 442 W-30. Once with SS 1 & with SS 11.


Good luck with the sale Devon. It's a W Machine & needs to be saved.


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Thanks Dave. The vinyl top original colour is black.
My phone number for those that want to call is 604 837-7711
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Very cool car....! GLWS sale 👍
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1972 W-30s did NOT have A/C as an available option. Kool W-Machine, GLWS.
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Originally Posted by Stefano
1972 W-30s did NOT have A/C as an available option. Kool W-Machine, GLWS.
So I'm guess replacement dash?
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Originally Posted by Joffroi
So I'm guess replacement dash?
The dash is fine - it has the non-A/C blockoff plate.

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No dual gate on the 72 w30's ?
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Old May 23rd, 2016, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RocketDevo
Thanks Dave. The vinyl top original colour is black.
Did it have black stripes with the black top or were the stripes original white?
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Dual Gate

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No dual gate on the 72 w30's ?
Dual Gate was an option on any Cutlass or W machine 1970-1972. It was not part of the W-30 or W-31 package in any year.
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I thought all 442's came with an internally regulated alternator?
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Old May 23rd, 2016, 10:55 AM
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Beginning in 69 I believe.
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Old May 23rd, 2016, 01:24 PM
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In 1972 because the 442 was no longer a model on its own, the voltage regulator was external. It did however share the same ribbed style rear housing as previous year internally regulated alternators. A few more photos for those interested.
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Old May 23rd, 2016, 01:54 PM
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I don't want to get off topic, but how do you know if a W car was made to ship to Canada without calling GM to get the paper work on it?

Radiant green, black top, and white stripes & interior. That has to be a unique color combination.
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I think the only way to know would be talking to the original owner or that information being passed along. I believe GM of Canada will let you know if your car is in their data base before charging for the service. I am not sure if GM can tell the difference between a customer ordered W30 as oppose to one that was being shipped to dealers under normal procedures. Thanks.
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Other manufacturers have coding that show whether a car was ordered for stock, by a customer, or for a myriad of other reasons. I wouldn't think GM would be any different, but ya never know.
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The car is still available, asking $7500.
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Hello there, I am wondering if this car is still available, Thanks
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Hello there, I am wondering if this car is still available, Thanks
I know Devon still had the car in August when I visited with him. Try sending him a PM.
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do not know where to find that info, can someone advise. newbie to site.
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You click on his name on the left and you should be able to find the path to PM him.
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Devon

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do not know where to find that info, can someone advise. newbie to site.
The car is near Vancouver BC Canada. Where are you?


I will be near the car next Saturday & can contact Devon if you are a serious buyer.
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Regarding the dash wood grain on the dash of the 72 W-30 from Vancouver BC. I've been noticing all cars have the wood grain around the instruments but some present with no lower wood grain across the HVAC controls through to the glove box. Did some of these cars have a code for no lower wood grain across the lower dashboard to the glove box door? 1 of my 70 W-31's was also like this. It had the wood grain around the instruments but no lower grain- from the heater controls through to the lower GB door. ie: was it optional to have the lower wood grain on the lower dash, from 1970-1972 ? This was one of my W-31's and matches the same dash grain as the car from BC.
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Heres another one: currently on ebay: 70 W-31.

Sorry if its off topic, but since someone was on the topic of dash boards on the car from BC I felt it ok to inquire lol
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Guess I answered my own question. So can I rephrase it too to ask....... What was the code for no lower wood grain dash from 1970-1972 ? This is from a 1971 Cutlass S sports coupe on eBay rt now.
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wood grain

My 1970 W-31 is a Cutlass S based car. It has only wood grain around the instrument panel.


My 1972 W-30 is also a Cutlass S based car. Wood grain around instrument panel & across the entire dash face.
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Re S interior trim level

The gold interior shot of my former W-31 was a 70 Cutlass "S" w-31 Holiday coupe, (no wood lower dash)

Black W-31 on eBay also same as my gold car (no wood)

My Black 4 speed S Holiday 4 speed (wood on lower dash)

My 71 W-30 Holiday coupe (wood lower dash)

link to blue 72 Cutlass "S" on eBay: (no wood on lower dash) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oldsmobile-C...m=172333568527

I was told it was part of the light group ?

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I believe all Supreme cars had the lower woodgrain & some S did also. Don't know for sure what makes the difference.
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Seems all of the 70-72 Supremes, 442's, and some "S" cars had the lower dash woodgrain. Was there another décor option needed on the "S" to get the lower dash woodgrain?
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Originally Posted by anthonyP
Seems all of the 70-72 Supremes, 442's, and some "S" cars had the lower dash woodgrain. Was there another décor option needed on the "S" to get the lower dash woodgrain?
You are correct. 70 -72 Supremes received the lower woodgrain trim along with the bead molding. 442's in 70 and 71 were trimmed the same as Supremes. They also received the chrome arm rest backing plates.
In 72, as 442s and W30s were Cutlasses and Cutlass Ss, and not a distinct model, they did not recieve the woodgrain nor the bead molding. They say Cutlass on the glove box door. Again, no backing plates. However, you could order the woodgrain on the lower dash by selecting option BC1 on any Cutlass during 70 -72. That's why you will occasionally see a Cutlass S with the woodgrain.
On a different note, 442 hardtops in 70 and 71 without a vinyl top came with a chrome roof drip molding. In 72, Cutlass and Cutlass S hardtops even with the 442 or W30 options did not receive the molding. However, it could be ordered separately under option code B90. Vinyl top cars always got the molding.

So when looking at a 72 W30, unless the separate options were ordered, they seem rather plain compared to the equivalents in 70 and 71. I'd still love to own one however.
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Originally Posted by Rocketbrian
You are correct. 70 -72 Supremes received the lower woodgrain trim along with the bead molding. 442's in 70 and 71 were trimmed the same as Supremes. They also received the chrome arm rest backing plates.
In 72, as 442s and W30s were Cutlasses and Cutlass Ss, and not a distinct model, they did not recieve the woodgrain nor the bead molding. They say Cutlass on the glove box door. Again, no backing plates. However, you could order the woodgrain on the lower dash by selecting option BC1 on any Cutlass during 70 -72. That's why you will occasionally see a Cutlass S with the woodgrain.
On a different note, 442 hardtops in 70 and 71 without a vinyl top came with a chrome roof drip molding. In 72, Cutlass and Cutlass S hardtops even with the 442 or W30 options did not receive the molding. However, it could be ordered separately under option code B90. Vinyl top cars always got the molding.

So when looking at a 72 W30, unless the separate options were ordered, they seem rather plain compared to the equivalents in 70 and 71. I'd still love to own one however.
BC1 option code on the documentation for my 1972 W-30 that has wood grain on dash. BC1 not on the documentation for the 1970 W-31 that has no wood grain on dash. Consistent with your above post. Thanks.
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Thanks Brian for the information. I meant to write 70-71 442's, knowing the 72 442 was based on a Cutlass and needed to have some before standard items ordered. The trim/decor options are confusing, especially from year to year, probably also for the salesperson at the time.

Even though many cars were oddly ordered, I think some of it was due to which salesperson you spoke worked with at the dealership, as many relied on the buyer to tell them what options they wanted, even though the sales brochures only noted the major options.

It would had been better if the salesperson handed the pocket sales booklet to the buyer to go through so the buyer could see all of the options. Recall when my brother ordered his '71 442 the dealer did not mention all of the available options not noted in the sales brochure, leaving out items such as the aluminum axle cover.
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Originally Posted by RocketDevo
In 1972 because the 442 was no longer a model on its own, the voltage regulator was external. It did however share the same ribbed style rear housing as previous year internally regulated alternators. A few more photos for those interested.
Since the '72 came with a 350 or 455, didn't it depend on which engine was installed if it came with an internal or external voltage regulator? Thought all 455 equipped cars had the internal regulator.
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BC1 it is.....Thank you Brian for clearing that up. Very obscure code that I hadn't know about until this evening. Thank you again!
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Originally Posted by anthonyP
Since the '72 came with a 350 or 455, didn't it depend on which engine was installed if it came with an internal or external voltage regulator? Thought all 455 equipped cars had the internal regulator.
As Rocketdevo stated there weren't any internal voltage regulators in 72 Cutlasses regardless of engine size. They were only used up to 71, the last of the separate model 442s. Even 72 W30s had the voltage regulator on the firewall.
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BC1 it is.....Thank you Brian for clearing that up. Very obscure code that I hadn't know about until this evening. Thank you again!
You are welcome, glad to help.
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Still have the 442 for sale?
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