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Old May 10th, 2020, 08:37 PM
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1970 Toronado GT in IL. SOLD

1970 Toronado GT. Montana car. Very solid example and mostly rust free. Original paint that clearly could use a refresh. The only damage was before I got it from a bump a d run that dented the front of the rear wheel well. Does not effect the door fit or 1/4 window. Fairly straight forward repair that would be done before a respray. Vinyl top is still decent without tears. Probably could be left in place depending on how nice a cosmetic job you want. 455 ci 400 hp. Just went through the car to make it safe and reliable as I wanted it to be a good driver. Front axles had been replaced but both upper and lower ball joints were just replaced as well as front links, front brake lines, fuel pump, water pump, rear shocks, trans fluid/filter and brake system flushed and replaced with DOT5. The AC unit is complete but not operational, needs full servicing. High optioned car that I serviced and repaired minus the AC and radio. Power windows work, power seat all 6 positions work, power trunk works, remote mirror works, power locks work, cruise control works and rear defrost checks out but hard to tell for sure as its not snowy or icy. All lights work, turn signals, wipers, speedometer, ventilation fan, tilt, e brake and horns. Very nice rear bumper and front is better than average. This car runs out like a scalded ape. Shifts are solid and smooth. Weatherstrip seals are ok but trunk seal should be replaced. Dash has no issues or door panels front or back. Seats need to be redone. Front from wear, rear has some stains that may clean out but certainly wont match with a new front so figure doing both. Headliner is ok but certainly needs replaced for cosmetics. Carpet is the same. Decent driver but I would replace it if Im redoing the seats. This is a strong running car that can be enjoyed and upgraded piecemeal as so its not tied up with a long restoration. Was going to bring up to the homecoming but thats in the can so online it is. I would rate this car as a solid 4+. Reduced to $6000.
The car is located at the Dr Oldsmobile Museum in IL.

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Nice car! Good luck with the sale. You mentioned its a Montana car, where is it located now?
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Beautiful car. GLWS!
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First time I have ever heard of/seen a Tornado "GT". Such a cool ride and I bet that 455 can still pull hard.

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I forget the stat but they built either just over 5000 or 5500ish. I wish I had the tools and talent to prep the body and paint it myself. Its that solid of a car. Paying a shop these days is insane but not crazy money if you can do it yourself.
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Forgot to add belts and hoses replaced. Obviously not the AC as previously pointed out.
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Did you consider taking an evening auto body course to paint it? I spent less than $2k total (including the price of the course) repainting my 71 98 in SS urethane by doing the work myself at the local vo-tech.
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Thought about it but got it and several other projects done during the governors forced down time and now patients are finally getting impatient so back to work. I was hoping I could qualify for all the free money being printed and take the spring into summer off but not an option.
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That's a decent car to start with. The car must have not seen to many mid-western winters up in Illinois.
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Old May 12th, 2020, 05:51 PM
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As far as I know it didnt see any salt. But I think it saw alot of country driving as when I went into the doors to grease the window tracks, it had tons of powder dust type dirt inside which explained all the small stone chips on the front and down low. Why they keep insisting on pouring salt and even worst the brine type crap out east instead of teaching/forcing drivers to slow down the few times a year its really ugly driving is beyond me. There certainly would be many more solid old cars out there.
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Tinkered with the clock and got it working then it quit again so im not sure if its going to be a full disassemble type job. Also, the radios FM stereo is operating but not the AM. The speakers are kinda scratchy but the left side dial is operating correctly for base/treble/voice. Again, probably needs a good cleaning service to increase the performance.
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Which yrs did Oldsmobile make a Tornado "GT" version?
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Originally Posted by capstoneclub
which yrs did oldsmobile make a tornado "gt" version?
iirc 68-69-70
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Correct, they just didnt badge them GT until 70.
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There should be a tag on the transmojo unit
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That means W34 NOT GT
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1970 Toronado GT article in Hemmings

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/art...le-toronado-gt
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Originally Posted by 1972vCode442
1970 Toronado GT article in Hemmings

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/art...le-toronado-gt
Cool article and sweet car. However, they mention in the specs that the diff used a "planetary gearset". While that was true in '66, I believe by '67 that was changed to a more traditional spider-gear differential (I remember learning this when I had my '69 Toro back in the '80s). Also, the inner CV joint design was changed to a 3-ball and socket arrangement in '67 (I think) too (the '66s had a more traditional 6-ball CV arrangement).
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBs68S
Cool article and sweet car. However, they mention in the specs that the diff used a "planetary gearset". While that was true in '66, I believe by '67 that was changed to a more traditional spider-gear differential (I remember learning this when I had my '69 Toro back in the '80s). Also, the inner CV joint design was changed to a 3-ball and socket arrangement in '67 (I think) too (the '66s had a more traditional 6-ball CV arrangement).
thats true, they also changed the gearing from 3.21 to 3.08 - and i think they also went from switch pitch to non-switch pitch.
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Still available for inspections or test drive.
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Is there any pictures of the underside of the car you could post? Like up on a lift? It may help you get more interest. Just a thought.
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In the pictures that really looks good, almost cannot believe that's a northern car. Those pictures should help create more interest. Hope you get some offers.
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I guess they know how to drive on icy roads out west without drowning the road with salt.
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I'm surprised it's not sold...yet..
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I've been watching this since you posted it for sale. I would seriously love to buy this car. Unfortunately, buying another car would probably trigger the need to retain the services of a divorce lawyer.

Good luck selling this beautiful car.
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Bump-I'm surprised the car is still for sale and not in a new home...
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Nobody seems willing to travel to inspect or test drive currently.
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Crazy, may try too lower the price and move it to a new home. I don't think I would drive it on a 1,000 trip..so many are factoring in about a 1K to the cost..
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Sorry- adding about 1K for shipping the car.
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Short of a flat tire and no working AC, I would drive it home. Thats why I dropped $1400 in it to get it up to snuff. The systems have been gone thru so you dont have to. Thats why the h2o pump, fuel pump, sending unit, brakes, suspension, trans gasket/ filter, oil filter, etc were done.
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Originally Posted by therobski
I'm surprised it's not sold...yet..
When you consider the caliber of car absolutely. A vehicle so highly regarded in automotive history old school car guys and mechanics alike say its name with reverence.

In the end though Toros need patience as far as selling goes. 66-70 are some of the most special vehicles Oldsmobile ever made. W34 like this car even more so. But when it comes to interest people tend to shy away from the front wheel drive platform when thinking this era of Oldsmobile.

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Such a cool ride and I bet that 455 can still pull hard.
I agree.

Absolute beast in good working order. 442 level of power. I had a 71 Eldo in good running condition. Both cars share similarities, the Eldo is rated at less power and it was a monster. To this day one of the most powerful vehicles I have ever driven. Front tires look practically flat at factory recommended pressure. With all that weight directly over the drive tire the car would absolutely rip through an intersection on a dead punch. Insane torque for a factory car. On the highway think freight train that could go through a building and come out unscathed on the other side.

Icing on the cake, the cars ride was incredibly smooth and comfortable.
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