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Old November 7th, 2013 | 05:41 PM
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1970 Convertible 442 W30 Clone

Not mine, but if the car is as nice in person as the pictures this could be a good deal! The ad mentions it has a dual gate, but they didn't point out the tic tock tac, sport steering wheel, tilt floor shift column. I don't know if the hood and wing are factory or aftermarket. Located at a car lot in Cottage Grove Oregon. I've inserted a couple photos, there's lots more on the web site.

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http://hamiltonsclassicautos.com/Cars%20for%20sale.htm

"1970 Olds Cutlass Convertible, 442 W-30 clone. 455 Olds V-8, Period correct. Auto transmission with floor shift Olds gated. PS, PB disc front, A/C blows cold. Power top, CD player under dash. All proper 442 w-30 emblems and decals ect. Straight and solid body with nice paint. Super nice original black interior and dash, Bucket seats with console floor shift, tilt wheel. Original chrome and glass all good. Black convertible top in good condition. New American 5 spoke wheels w/ new Cooper tires. Car runs and drives out excellent! # A-1845 $18,500"
Old November 7th, 2013 | 05:51 PM
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That would appear to be a very nice car for that price!
Old November 7th, 2013 | 06:54 PM
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Looks pretty good.The stripes look pretty good,but they butchered the emblem placements. That's usually a tell tale sign of everything else.
Old November 7th, 2013 | 08:35 PM
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That amounts to not doing your research on the proper placement of the emblems,which is
kinda dumb as there's companies making a stencil for it.For that kinda money AT LEAST
they could do that right!
Old November 7th, 2013 | 08:42 PM
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Like I said,it's usually a sign of the way everything else was done.
Old November 7th, 2013 | 09:35 PM
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Spoilers on convertibles look stupid.
Old November 7th, 2013 | 09:38 PM
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Well, so far it sounds like there's only two of us who like this car. I don't think I could build it for $18,000 but I'd sure enjoy using it as a daily driver in the summer time.
Old November 7th, 2013 | 10:28 PM
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looks like an ok price to me. I too would say hard to build this car for 18k. I don't care for the decklid stripes or spoiler but wouldn't be a deal killer at that price.
Old November 9th, 2013 | 10:03 AM
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No,you can't build it for $18k,but how much will it cost to correct everything that is wrong vs doing it right in the first place. Not trying to be a Debbie-Downer,but there are way too many of these types of cars out there.
Old November 9th, 2013 | 10:46 AM
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If it were closer I'd check it out in person. Looking at the stripes on the trunk it appears to me that someone started out making a Pace Car replica. The interior shots look very nice as do the under hood pictures. I wonder if the person adding the W30 emblems was the same person who did the rest of the restoration/clone project? I don't think the car lot that now has it knows much about Oldsmobiles as their description of the dual gate was strange. Plus they didn't mention the rally pac, sport wheel or comment on the OAI hood and wing.

Well, for the price I think it would be a fun driver. And that's a difference, I'd be uncomfortable using the real deal as a driver. I've got a friend who sold a restored plane jane Cutlass convertible last summer for $26,000 which was a nice car. But this one has a lot more options than my friends car did, so I wanted to share it here. If someone was looking for a toy, something to drive and enjoy vs. a uber rare classic that's taken to shows and also enjoyed, but not as casually. This could be a good deal for someone. John
Old November 9th, 2013 | 12:00 PM
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I'm with Diego on the wing.
Old November 20th, 2013 | 09:20 PM
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Car has been lowered down to $15,500 now. Thats bout how much I'll have in my 71 convertible Im restoring myself. Minus all my labor time. If I was starting over, well then I just might......
Old November 21st, 2013 | 08:23 AM
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Just called them but no one answered the phone. Left a message. They don't have a working email. I am going to make an offer on this one.
Old November 21st, 2013 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JONDOEJR
Car has been lowered down to $15,500 now. Thats bout how much I'll have in my 71 convertible Im restoring myself. Minus all my labor time. If I was starting over, well then I just might......
Same here I have a little more than that into my 70 supreme vert. I would have bought this one instead as well with the OAI hood and 455. Those wheels are ugly though, they would be the first thing to go along with the wing. I think the wing would be ok if not for those trunk stripes
Old November 21st, 2013 | 10:15 AM
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Those wheels are ugly though, they would be the first thing to go along with the wing. I think the wing would be ok if not for those trunk stripes
X2 - the spoiler doesn't bother me as much as those trunk stripes. I HATE trunk stripes on a cutlass (with the exception of a pace car that is). It's not a chevelle. Oops, I've probably pissed off guys with trunk stripes now Sorry JMO
Old November 21st, 2013 | 10:20 AM
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The rear spoiler/wing looks absolutely ridiculous on the convertible, and was never a dealer option for convertibles, as many try to use this as reasoning for installing a spoiler/wing on a convertible.

Oldsmobile literature even notes that the spoiler/wing was only for hardtops from 1970 to 1972, both from the factory or dealer installed.

Others try to say that since the GTO and '69 H/O convertibles had them, all 442, H/O, and Cutlass convertibles must of had them as an "option".
Old November 21st, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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Spoilers on convertibles look stupid.
It's like nails on a chalk board.
Old November 22nd, 2013 | 06:25 AM
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Replacing - or repairing and painting - the rear deck would be a pretty simple fix which would result in a fun driver!
Old November 22nd, 2013 | 07:31 AM
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Looks pretty good.The stripes look pretty good,but they butchered the emblem placements. That's usually a tell tale sign of everything else.
That is why I am not touching mine

I like this car...if closer
Old November 22nd, 2013 | 10:39 AM
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Well, for the price I think it would be a fun driver. And that's a difference, I'd be uncomfortable using the real deal as a driver.

Exactly! That is a lot of car for the money and what a fun ride. I will have way more than that in my car when finished. As for the wing haters, different strokes for different folks!
Old November 27th, 2013 | 11:06 PM
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The car showed up on eBay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oldsmobile-4...US_Cars_Trucks
Old November 27th, 2013 | 11:16 PM
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I had got a hold of the guy, was going to offer to buy it was already sold. Now some else is going to try to make a buck
Old November 28th, 2013 | 11:31 AM
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It looks like the car lot in Washington State bought it with the intentions to flip the car for a quick profit. Thanks for posting the link, it will be interesting to see what it sells for.

John
Old November 28th, 2013 | 12:10 PM
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The last price was $15,500. They will probably want $30k for it if I know flippers the way I do.
Old December 8th, 2013 | 09:11 AM
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Went and saw this car when it was in Oregon. The White definitely hides alot of stuff you cannot see in the pictures.

Both doors showed signs of rust on the bottom of each one.
The rear panel behind the convertible was the thing that scared me away. When I pulled up on the top the parts of the car came up with it. It looks to me like when the car was repainted that the body work/rust wasnt really completely cleaned out. Surface rust was showing up in alot of other area also. The car did start right up and sounded ok. The top worked and the interior had new seats and carpet that they said was original. The car did have the tach and it did work ...
Old December 8th, 2013 | 09:17 AM
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At the time I saw the car the owner wouldnt budge of of the 18k price. Said he owed over 17 on the car. He didnt have the title because there was a loan taken on the car.
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