1968 Cutlass Supreme holiday coupe survivor. Kind of a barn find without the barn. California car, it has been stored for 23 years, last 4 outside. This car is complete and all original with only 63663 miles on it. Car runs and everything works, including the factory power antenna and am radio. This car is a great project to restore to original or make it a restomod. The original color was Tahitian Turquoise, Parchment interior with white vinyl top. The top needs to be replaced and the front seat needs to be redone. The back seat looks like it hasn't been sat on. Headliner is good. It is an A/C car and seems all systems and vacuum doors works fine, but it does need a recharge. Floor pans and trunk floor are rust free. Trunk even still has the original spare, cover, jack, etc. Small rust in the typical places on front fender patch panels, and small spots on trunk over tail lights as seen in pictures. very minor to repair. All glass is good, lights all work, even hood, trunk and glove box lights. The only think missing on this car are the original hub caps, but I am including a set of 14x7 SSII rally wheels.
I have replaced plugs, points, cap, rotor, wires, fuel pump, and master cylinder.
I have clean title in hand. Car is currently registered in California through December.
This is a great project to start with. Really mostly cosmetics will bring her back to glory. $8500.00.

 

 

In order to call a car a Survivor, Doesnt something have to be in good shape and "Survive" time? Doesn't look like much of this car has survived father time... Maybe the headline should say.."Lot's of Patina!"

 

I say its missed being smashed at every panel, missed Ricky Racer modifying every other thing. And being so complete.
I'd call it a survivor!

 

Thanks Nonhog. I was just going to say everyone might have a different interpretation of the word "survivor". This car survived 46 years of no wrecks, botch ups, or molestation and is still complete with all it's original parts. And it still runs. The next person may want to do modifications, but at least they will have a choice. Yes is needs paint, some upholstery work, vinyl top. I didn't say it was restored. I only meant it has survived the elements for 46 years. Everyone has their own opinions!

 

price reduced to $7500.

 

Good luck with your sale.

 

Yup, that is a survivor!
Looks to be all there, unmolested...good luck wth the sale

 

I'll join in and say that ain't a survivor, but good luck with the sale.

 

Why not?

 

To me, a survivor is a car with integrity, a largely original car that is quite presentable.

I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way, and when the term was becoming in vogue, that was the original meaning.

 

agree primer is not Surviver or Turquoise. the - " original color was Tahitian Turquoise"

 

The term "Survivor" as it relates to vintage collectable automobiles is trademarked and defined. To simplify the car must be 50% or better, original factory unrestored condition in each of 4 categories, Paint, Interior, engine & chassis.

 

By who? (out of curiosity)

Does this mean the OP could be sued for using the word in the title of this thread (and elsewhere)?

 

I believe Bloomington Gold Corvettes USA has it registered. I doubt an individual would be sued, but it is why you see an "original" or "archieved" class at car shows, rather than "survivor" They consider an award as more of a certification than a placement.

 

http://www.survivorcollectorcar.com/?link=trademark

 

A couple of comments about this site.

First of all, none of the links on the left side lead to anything. Clicking on the link above doesn't lead to the trademark page. Every time I click on any of the left-side links, such as the "About Us --> Trademark Importance," which would seem to be the relevant one here, all it does is bring up the same page as was there before, which looks like the home page and which describes a show from 2012.

Second, it appears that they have trademarked the phrase "SURVIVOR Collector Car," not the word "survivor" itself, and the word "survivor" has to be all capitals.

I'm not completely familiar with trademark law, but I don't think a single word, especially if it's a common word, which "survivor" certainly is, is trademark-able.

After all, I can't trademark the word "tree" and then go out and sue anyone who calls those things growing in their backyard a tree if they haven't licensed the term from me.


I think it's perfectly fine to call a car a "survivor" and not be breaking any trademark laws. It also continues to be a word, as applied to old cars, with no single accepted meaning.

Calling a car a "SURVIVOR Collector Car," though, would be breaking trademark law, unless these people evaluated the car and verified that it met their standard.

 

Here's more on the subject. Pretty much spells it out. The OP is perfectly safe in continuing to call his car a "survivor" without fear of breaking trademark/copyright law.


Can a Single Word Be Copyrighted?

http://yourbusiness.azcentral.com/ca...hted-9327.html

 

My point is that the term as it applies to certain collector cars per se is defined.

You can use it as you see fit.

Here is the info on the "Survivor" trade mark.

"Survivor® is a registered trademark used for Authenticating Certain Collectible Automobiles and owned by Bloomington Gold Enterprises, Inc., White Gold, Ltd.. Full trade mark registration details, registered images and more information below.


Goods and/or Services: Authenticating Certain Collectible Automobiles
Serial Number: 73810862 Registration Number: 1590274 Filing Date: Jul 5, 1989 Last Applicant(s)/
Owner(s) of Record Bloomington Gold Enterprises, Inc.

21906 W Grant Highway
Marengo, Il 66152-0422 US


White Gold, Ltd.

P.O. Box 787
Bloomington, Il 61702 US



Related Products: Miscellaneous Services; Scientific and technological services, and research and design relating thereto; Industrial analysis and research services; Design and development of computer hardware and software; Legal services"

 

I dunno. Ask the people at Coke®.

- Eric

 

that would be ocean turquoise for 68

 

But they do not own and control the use of the word "survivor" at applies to a car or anything else. As you say, it applies to "certain collector cars" that this organization has examined and deemed "SURVIVOR Collector Cars." It's a fine line they're treading because, as noted, single words, especially common words, cannot be trademarked.

 

I would call any car that has been around for 46 years and is in pretty original condition without having been restored a Survivor. Good starting point for someone. Good luck with your sale!

 

This is short for "Coca-Cola". It is also a less common word. As the article I cited notes, single words can be copyrighted in certain circumstances, and this is perhaps one of them. It doesn't invalidate my point.

 

Common or not, it is the word for a fuel made by heating coal until all of the volatile components have been burned off.
It is extensively used in the iron and steel industries.

I was just providing the obvious answer to your rhetorical question.



And there in NO way you can call that car a "survivor."
"Refugee," perhaps.
"Refugee from the crusher," more likely.
Or maybe just "Rat."

- Eric

 

I love Ventura! As a kid I lived in Oxnard & Fillmore way back in the day.

 

I don't usually comment on people's for sale listings but since you all have felt so strongly about not calling this a "Survivor" maybe you should actually check the cowl tag color code. It still may be in primer but who knows, maybe it really is Silver (I'd say for sure that under the vinyl top is the original color)

 

good point, but you know most on here they have to critique everything and usually w negativity

 

How about good luck with the sale and maybe someone will give it a good home and resto. :-)