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Old Dec 30, 2012 | 08:25 AM
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clip on inboard brake pad

Howdy All,
I am installing the front brakes on my 68 Toro. I have converted to the 69-78 floating caliper. I noticed that the inboard brake pad has a small clip like piece and was not sure if this piece installed facing upwards or down wards. I'm not sure what's its purpose is.
I also noticed either the new calipers or pads (forgot which) came with two small brass washers. I cannot figure out what these are for either. It's been quite awhile since I split apart my used spindles. If anyone knows your help is greatly appreciated.
Jim
Old Dec 30, 2012 | 09:32 AM
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I would guess the clip is to hold the pad to the piston. If it's like ones I've worked on the clip goes on the pad, then clips to the inside of the piston.

These washers are probably for the brake line to caliper connection. I'm used to seeing copper, but the concept is that they will be soft enough that when tightened they will make an air tight seal. If that doesn't sound like what you have please post pictures of them.



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Old Dec 30, 2012 | 09:56 AM
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Thanks 2blu,

I thought perhaps the washers could be for the flex lines. However I have a few old calipers with the flex lines still attached and they did not use washers. In fact all my core parts did not have a washer anywhere.

Concerning the clip thing, if you go to this link. http://www.breznick.com/toronado/brakes/index.htm
Scroll down until you see the picture of the loaded caliper. notice a silver clip type thing on the inboard pad on the left side on this picture. That is what I refer to...not the spring clip to hold the pad in place.

Thanks again for your response!

Jim
Old Dec 30, 2012 | 10:04 AM
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Hi Jim
Is it the metal piece attached to the pad, the upper left hand corner as your looking at the photo?

If so, that's intended to start scraping the rotor and make a horrible noise before the pads wear deep enough to start cutting into and damaging the rotor. That wasn't always there on old pads but is common on newer stuff.

On another note... really nice writeup on the disc brake conversion! I've got a 1967 Toro with the 4 pistons calipers and didn't know it was possible to install the newer setup on these old girls.


John

P.S. Is there a picture of the brass washers on the writeup? I still think the rubber lines should have soft metal washers on them where they attach to the calipers, even if the olds ones didn't have them. We'll have to see if anyone else can shed light on this.
Old Dec 30, 2012 | 10:11 AM
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Thank You! That makes sense. I could not figure out what it was for.

A lot of the Toro guys, use the later still disc brakes when they convert from drums.

Rotors are very hard to find for the 67-68 4 piston type is the word on the street.

Thanks again! Jim
Old Dec 30, 2012 | 10:51 AM
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Hey Again 2blu442,

You are 100% correct. The washer does indeed go between flex line and caliper. I removed an old one from a junk caliper to confirm. I guess the second washer is a spare (two in a pact)?
Your expertise and willingness to share info has made my day!

Thank You! Jim
Old Dec 30, 2012 | 11:36 AM
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Jim, if you have two per side then put one on each side of the flexible hose fitting. What I'm used to is kind of a square brass fitting on the end of the hose. The bolt that attaches it to the caliper will have a washer near the head, then insert bolt into square fitting, then add the second washer and thread the bolt into the caliper. That way you've got that air tight fitting all the way through.



John
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