Body work All body work discussion including vinyl tops

Chrome fastner studs?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 07:11 AM
  #1  
Jamesbo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 18,058
From: Atlanta, Georgia
Chrome fastner studs?

The body studs that hold the nylon fastners the chrome snaps onto have been ground off my 69 442. I was going to make a H/O clone without a vinyl top car and now have decided to go back with a vinyl top. The studs go above the rear quarters and around the rear above the truck deck.[If I remember corectly]

Have any of you tried to replace the small [screw/nail shaped] studs? Any ideas from learned body men?

Thanks guys.

If you can help me, I'll email you a pic of the winner of the Stren fishing line home-made bathing suit contest.
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 07:27 AM
  #2  
Bluevista's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,430
From: Northeast Ohio
Don't you use a stud welder with a trim rivet tip and trim rivets? I've never done it but I would guess you do that? they sell the things, I don't know really.
Can I still see the winner?

http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?i...mType=CATEGORY


Edit: I thought this one out more, I know this will work.

f0757a0a53d08682.jpg

Last edited by Bluevista; Apr 29, 2009 at 08:07 AM.
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 07:31 AM
  #3  
68Tom's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,052
From: Phoenix, AZ
Oh yes, those studs are fantastic when sanding one's car down to bare metal. Can't tell you how many times I hit them which sent my sander skidding across the car.

Very similar studs are used in the rear and front window wells to attach the stainless trim clips. Seeing as more than half of mine have rusted away, my body man was assessing what they were going to do to replace them. If they did a good job of it, I'll send you some pics when I get back to AZ.
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:49 AM
  #4  
joe_padavano's Avatar
Old(s) Fart
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 50,770
From: Northern VA
Originally Posted by Bluevista
Edit: I thought this one out more, I know this will work.
If that's supposed to be double-sided tape, no it won't work. The stainless trim is made from formed sheet. There is no flat surface on the backside to attach the tape to.

Originally Posted by 68Tom
Oh yes, those studs are fantastic when sanding one's car down to bare metal. Can't tell you how many times I hit them which sent my sander skidding across the car.
Try jamming your fingertips into one of them when hand sanding...

Originally Posted by Jamesbo
Have any of you tried to replace the small [screw/nail shaped] studs? Any ideas from learned body men?
Whatever you do, do NOT drill a hole and use a screw. That's just asking for trouble. As noted above, use a stud welder. They sell the correct tips for these small trim studs.
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 11:20 AM
  #5  
Jamesbo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 18,058
From: Atlanta, Georgia
Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Whatever you do, do NOT drill a hole and use a screw. That's just asking for trouble.
No I may be stupid, but I ain't crazy.

Who sells the studs? Althought they carry the nylon fastners, Fusick doesn't carry the studs.

I know they have to be pretty exact. When assembling cars in the past, I've noticed that too much paint on the studs can streach the nylon trim fastners a little and the trim won't snap on like it should.
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 01:42 PM
  #6  
joe_padavano's Avatar
Old(s) Fart
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 50,770
From: Northern VA
Originally Posted by Jamesbo
No I may be stupid, but I ain't crazy.

Who sells the studs? Althought they carry the nylon fastners, Fusick doesn't carry the studs.

I know they have to be pretty exact. When assembling cars in the past, I've noticed that too much paint on the studs can streach the nylon trim fastners a little and the trim won't snap on like it should.
Search stud welder trim rivets:

http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?i...emType=PRODUCT

http://www.handsontools.com/Motor-Gu...g_p_13582.html

http://wayneofthewoods.com/Auto-Tools/31041-D.html
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 01:57 PM
  #7  
68Tom's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,052
From: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted by joe_padavano
If that's supposed to be double-sided tape, no it won't work. The stainless trim is made from formed sheet. There is no flat surface on the backside to attach the tape to.
Joe that's no problem. If you just stuff the back side of the trim with paper, it will give you a flat surface with which to affix the double sided tape. The paper method is also good for stuffing rust holes and then bondo-ing over with 2-4" of filler layer.

Some of the worlds leading car restorers use these techniques. You can see some fine examples on eBay!
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 02:14 PM
  #8  
Bluevista's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,430
From: Northeast Ohio
Originally Posted by 68Tom
Joe that's no problem. If you just stuff the back side of the trim with paper, it will give you a flat surface with which to affix the double sided tape. The paper method is also good for stuffing rust holes and then bondo-ing over with 2-4" of filler layer.

Some of the worlds leading car restorers use these techniques. You can see some fine examples on eBay!
You have to use the correct paper.

3200537966_27f07d0bd6_m.jpg
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 02:16 PM
  #9  
joe_padavano's Avatar
Old(s) Fart
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 50,770
From: Northern VA
Originally Posted by 68Tom
Joe that's no problem. If you just stuff the back side of the trim with paper, it will give you a flat surface with which to affix the double sided tape. The paper method is also good for stuffing rust holes and then bondo-ing over with 2-4" of filler layer.

Some of the worlds leading car restorers use these techniques. You can see some fine examples on eBay!
Of COURSE! What was I thinking?

Actually, I originally thought you were serious because I just got through reattaching the side impact trim strips on my Custom Cruiser using the 3M double sided trim tape.
Old May 1, 2009 | 06:32 AM
  #10  
67 Cutlass's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 399
From: Swansea, MA
Boy that seems awful expensive for restoring the window trim studs
As I get ready to install a new rear window panel it will need about 6 studs for the trim clips. Kind of hard to justify that kind of $ for a few studs especially anyone on a tight budget. But I suppose if it's to be done right...
Old May 1, 2009 | 08:54 AM
  #11  
joe_padavano's Avatar
Old(s) Fart
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 50,770
From: Northern VA
Originally Posted by 67 Cutlass
Boy that seems awful expensive for restoring the window trim studs
As I get ready to install a new rear window panel it will need about 6 studs for the trim clips. Kind of hard to justify that kind of $ for a few studs especially anyone on a tight budget. But I suppose if it's to be done right...
Or, just take the car to an auto body shop and pay then to spot weld the six studs in place...

Or find someone who might have a stud welder that you can borrow. How soon do you need to do this? I'll be visiting family in Central MA later this year.
Old May 2, 2009 | 07:08 PM
  #12  
67 Cutlass's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 399
From: Swansea, MA
Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Or, just take the car to an auto body shop and pay then to spot weld the six studs in place...

Or find someone who might have a stud welder that you can borrow. How soon do you need to do this? I'll be visiting family in Central MA later this year.

I stopped by a local body shop to inquire about shooting studs and they said they would line up the clips, drill holes and use pop rivets. Hell I could do that!!!!!!!!!!!
There's plenty of shops around to check with at a later time. So just incase nobody close to home can help out I think I'll go with a screw in type stud and seal weld from the back side. Who's gonna know? That's probably the route I'll go anyway.

Enjoy your trip to Central MA later this year.
Old May 3, 2009 | 08:31 AM
  #13  
joe_padavano's Avatar
Old(s) Fart
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 50,770
From: Northern VA
Originally Posted by 67 Cutlass
I stopped by a local body shop to inquire about shooting studs and they said they would line up the clips, drill holes and use pop rivets. Hell I could do that!!!!!!!!!!!
This is wrong on so many levels. First, it's a good way to re-start pinchweld rust. Second, the body shops usually use aluminum pop rivets, so the galvanic corrosion accelerates the rust.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
hobs
General Discussion
12
Nov 23, 2013 01:22 PM
bgoble
Parts Wanted
5
Oct 30, 2010 05:59 AM
slowolds
Parts Wanted
2
Jul 21, 2010 02:31 AM
darrenrf
General Discussion
2
May 27, 2010 06:20 PM
The Stickman
Chassis/Body/Frame
6
Mar 16, 2010 07:34 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:48 AM.