sethj78

Starting a 455 rebuild. I ordered a forged piston kit from summit but the pistons r on a 3 week back order, does anyone have any suggestions on where to get them faster without paying $600 from mondello? And if anyone has build ideas about how to get the most streetable power out of this thing I'm listening. I'm porting the heads, not sure about putting bigger valves, have a stock H.O. roller cam from a 307.

442garage

Take a look at these guys: FlatlanderRacing.com

Olds64

Have you looked at Jegs? They will usually price match. Plus, I've never heard anything bad about their customer service.

citcapp

If your going to the trouble of higher compression pistons and having head work done then go the extra step of using the larger valves its worth it.

Warhead

Do the big valves on the intake.

AJCDFIN

Hey; What letter heads are U using? IMO putting bigger valves in some heads with the 307 roller would yield little gain.

cutlassefi

I agree, flatlanderracing is a good place to start. You may want to go to www.cnc-motorsports.com as well. They have the Probe pistons for $455.00. Much lighter than the Speed Pros. 307 cam? I know it's cheap but why bother, ain't much to it, especially for a 455.
I may have an Erson Hyd. Roller for sale if you're interested. Specs are 276/284 adv., 222/230 @ .050 on a 112, .512 lift with 1.6 rockers

88 coupe

Any competent machine shop can get you everything you will need, sell it to you at a "kit" price, and they pay the shipping.

Norm

cutlassefi

I'd like to know how "any competent machine shop" will be able to get them faster (that's what he asked) than anyone else if they're on a factory backorder. Explain please, in the same detail you seem to request from others. Thank you.

88 coupe

Whenever any of those "others" do no see fit to clarify their own incomplete statements, I feel obligated show them the same level of courtesy.

Regarding your question, I suggest, you ask your favorite machine shop to explain it to you.

Norm

cutlassefi

No, Norm, I shouldn't need to ask my favorite machine shop. You apparently are speaking for them (machine shops), so I will ask you again, please explain how they will be able to get the pistons faster, because that's what he asked, than Summit or anyone else for that matter? Thank you.

I offered a particular site, you offered a blanket general statement that his favorite machine shop will be able to put together a "kit" in which they will pay the shipping? How do you know all of this? Have you talked to his favorite machine shop? Do you have this in writing? What backup do you have to substantiate your claims?

Seth, there are many other viable outlets out there, I believe a few have already been listed. Give them a shout. Good luck and keep us posted if you will.

88 coupe

Here it is, again:

If you would like to discuss it further, you can start a new thread in the proper forum.

Norm

380 Racer

That's a nice (and usual) non-answer .

This is just an observation on my part.

cutlassefi

Regarding his favorite machine shop and part availability, you opened that can of worms first Norm. why didn't you start a new thread? Answer the question Norm, either here or in another thread. I'll pose it to you again, how will his favorite machine shop be able to get the pistons faster than Summit? I'm sure everyone will be awaiting your complete and utterly earth shattering answer.

I'll give you this, you're a consistant ***%#*&! As 380 Racer said, nice and usual non-answer.

I think I've made my point, I'm done here.

I wish you the best of luck in your project Seth. I'm confident you'll figure out who's on here to lend genuine help and who is here just to stir the pot with no real worth.

jensenracing77

i also would try another cam if i were you.

88 coupe

http://www.jacksonauto.net/default.asp?page=1271

Norm

88 coupe

Better than no answer at all.

Note that there are no confusing Bold fonts, or smart azz comments, and that the question was directly related to the statement.

And this is just an observation of your observation.

Norm

380 Racer

Quote:
Originally Posted by 380 Racer
That's a nice (and usual) non-answer ........

Better than no answer at all.

Since you don't know the correct answer.......no answer at all is the best answer. In other words, if you don't know STFU!

sklbndt

Way to blow this guys thread up with all your bickering guys.

cts-v

Are you looking for .030 over, or some other piston size?

cutlassefi

Norm, did you even try to contact Jackson Auto Parts & Machine Shop? My bet is no, you just assumed and hoped it would validate your non-answer?
Well I did call them, spoke to Mark, they do not stock any SpeedPro/TRW Pistons for Olds, any Olds, they'll have to order them from a warehouse. Imagine that! They will put a "kit' together but guess who pays the shipping, the customer not them. Go figure! Call him for yourself, please.

So I will ask you again, Norm, how will his favorite machine shop, or in this case the one you picked for him, be able to get them faster than Summit? To quote the great John McEnroe, "answer the question"?

We are all waiting for your answer, or better yet non-answer, cuz that's better than no answer at all right?

Seth, you might want to try another outlet, and seeing as how Norm is grabbing at straws, I wouldn't believe him either.

Sorry to hijack the thread but there are guys on here with useful, good information who don't post for fear of being picked apart, unjustly, by Norm. I won't acknowledge your baseless/instigating posts Norm, I hope others consider the source and don't as well.

Best of luck to you Seth.

citcapp

Seth,

There are other piston brands to consider. I used Keith Black 15cc dished pistions in my Olds and am very happy with the result

88 coupe

Did anyone say I did?

Is there any "shipping" involved if said parts are on "Will Call"?

Did anyone say they could?

Norm

captjim

Quote:
Originally Posted by cutlassefi
........ how will his favorite machine shop ........ be able to get them faster than Summit? ........

Did anyone say they could?

Yes, you did, post #16 in this thread.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sethj78
........ where to get them faster ........

http://www.jacksonauto.net/default.asp?page=1271

Norm

Norm, you are now bickering with 2 different guys in two different threads. But, like always, it is not because of you. I will restate the obvious once again, every contentious thread here at CO has one common denominator, Norm.

citcapp

Any more of this and I or another moderator will close this thread and once again the poster who was only requesting help will denied same

Pat

sethj78

Holy crap! I have been short on time lately so I haven't checked this. The bickering was good for a laugh anyway Thanks for all the info. I am thinking u guys r right about the 307 cam. My dad used one in a 403 so he degreed it and I compared it to others and its kinda low on numbers all the way around. and I will be porting the heads and welding up the center exhaust ports. I have to get new valves so might aswell go bigger right I have sent off for the summit kit with my budget in mind I just wish I could get the pistons sooner, but what can ya do? Who ever had the cam let me check the #'s on it, I'm going to be driving this thing on the street so I don't want anything to rad. Thanks again guys I will try to get back to those that r offering parts. Does anyone have stuff to convert a 78 regal to a 4 speed car?

sethj78

Yes .030 over pistons. Its a std. bore so anything bigger than .010, GA heads, I found a set of aluminum roller rockers 1.6:1 for $50

gearheads78

have you tried Smitty or an Olds Specific shop yet.

Oldsguy

Continue this discussion on a new thread. My apologies to sethj78.

Guys this is getting old......