oil passage plugs (cam)

Old Sep 10, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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oil passage plugs (cam)

Is that what you would call those? Mine are rusty and the machine shop said to try and get new ones and good luck finding them.
One has a squirter hole for T-chain?
I can search the web but having the proper name would help.
Thanks !
Old Sep 10, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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Here you go. Easy Peasy!!!



http://dickmillerracing.com/store/page20.html
Old Sep 10, 2010 | 09:10 PM
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Thanks! I was just about to post a picture and you beat me to it.
Old Sep 11, 2010 | 06:09 AM
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You see the link under the picture though right???? LOL
Old Sep 11, 2010 | 08:58 AM
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I sent for the Dick Miller catalog/manual last year, and it's well worth getting. Gives you all the info you need to do the 455 right, and all the know-how to install/utilize the correct components. Plus all the experience of the Dick Miller shop. Can't go wrong.
Old Sep 11, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 66ninetyeightls
You see the link under the picture though right???? LOL
Yep spent some time browsing, fun stuff ! thanks again

Originally Posted by Texas Jim
I sent for the Dick Miller catalog/manual last year, and it's well worth getting. Gives you all the info you need to do the 455 right, and all the know-how to install/utilize the correct components. Plus all the experience of the Dick Miller shop. Can't go wrong.
Good call !

I found GM part #'s but I'm sure they are long gone. My GM hook up is closed on Saturday.
22527021 / 22527020

Also stocked at other Olds shops like Mondello. My machine shop said try
Pioneer which I have yet to.
There is hope !
Old Sep 11, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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Forgot to mention I could always steal the ones from my JY 455.
For 30 dollars I might. The rusty ones are soaking in vinegar now.
Old Sep 11, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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The Dick Miller site says $17 bucks for the pair. Bet if you went to an old plumbing supply store you could find comparable plugs and drill a hole in one of them for a couple of bucks
Old Sep 11, 2010 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by citcapp
The Dick Miller site says $17 bucks for the pair. Bet if you went to an old plumbing supply store you could find comparable plugs and drill a hole in one of them for a couple of bucks
The rear ones are 17 the front ones are 31.13 not a ton of money but it will add up fast. Line bore and crank turn needed.
Hate to sound cheap but I am !
Read somewhere about special threads maybe thats a sells ploy?
I do have a drill press
Old Sep 11, 2010 | 06:51 PM
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They're regular pipe thread. When you buy a freeze plug kit it comes with the plugs, undrilled.

I drill a .040 hole in both needed (front for the cam/chain, rear for the distributor), I think stock is around .025. No issues.
Old Sep 11, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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Hi, I posted this a while back and got no reply,so I'll do it again.When I rebuilt my 350 I raised the oil pressure and the engine leaked everywhere,I mean everywhere.not a lot but everywhere.Turns out the holes that allow the oil to drain back down to the oil pan should have been made bigger.The oil was covering them and allowing crankcase pressure to build.Its something you should talk to your engine builder about.A lot easer to fix now than later.
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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Inline Tube - $16
Old Sep 11, 2010 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Railguy
Turns out the holes that allow the oil to drain back down to the oil pan should have been made bigger.The oil was covering them and allowing crankcase pressure to build.Its something you should talk to your engine builder about.A lot easer to fix now than later.
Railguy

So the block valley was plugging up ? with oil ? Not sure I follow.
I know the oil drain back smoothing and opening up has followers and nay sayers. Not sure myself?

I'm thinking if my threads clean up with the vinegar bath, I'll just drill it out to .040. Can't think of a downside.
Old Sep 12, 2010 | 08:47 AM
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Yes thats right,what I did to fix the problem was I pulled the oil fill tube out,drilled a hole in the back and installed a pcv valve.I guess pressure from the crankcase combined with the vacuum above held the oil up and over the holes.The oil quite leaking immediately.I have a few friends that race 410's when I told them about what happened they all knew of this problem.Seams like I'm the only one that didn't.If I had it to do over I'd have re worked the block.And installed those "stackes" I don't know what there called.I saw them in all the 410's,never new what they where for but then some of those are over 900 hp and pushing 17-1.alot different then then my 350.
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 08:59 AM
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The rear The front plugs are straight thread and seal on the shoulders of the plugs. One plug has a small hole in it and lubes the timing chain. The two front plugs have different thread sizes also. You should be able to find a junk Olds block to get them from.
Old Sep 12, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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Fot the past 20 years or so, when I saw a post like this, I would send the small parts for free.

However, the last few times I did it, never even received a thank you.

The canadian guy on this site I sent an NOS clutch pedal bushing did not have the manners to thanks me.

Now, I don't do it anymore.
Old Sep 12, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by My442
Fot the past 20 years or so, when I saw a post like this, I would send the small parts for free.

However, the last few times I did it, never even received a thank you.

The canadian guy on this site I sent an NOS clutch pedal bushing did not have the manners to thanks me.

Now, I don't do it anymore.
That's to bad, a thank you is such an easy thing to do.
Old Sep 13, 2010 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by My442

However, the last few times I did it, never even received a thank you.
People are so busy they sometimes become rude by default. No excuse.
Rude is rude.

I'm trying to sell my 49 GMC and people just up and stop returning e-mails even after I ask "are you waiting on me, did I forget something? let me know" nothing........ I expect that from the craigslist crowd but from forum members that is pretty bad. Back to plugs !

22527021 (the one with the hole, I THINK) you can get through your GM dealer my quote was $12.80 the 22527020 no go !
Still soaking mine.
Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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Vinegar works well as a mild rust remover.
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 04:02 AM
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Wow. Thats impressive.
Old Sep 14, 2010 | 05:14 AM
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A .040 bit only cost a couple bucks.When I did mine I think I bought 3.Gave 1 to my friend who put the bottom end together and put the others in my tool box.
Old Oct 11, 2010 | 09:09 AM
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interesting question re:plugs

So I got BTR's book on Olds engines. Only read bits and pieces so far.
in the book he says plug the hole on the T-chain plug because it gets enough oil anyway. Odd that most are saying enlarge hole and he is saying plug it.
Just trying to get my head around this stuff.
Maybe neither is right or wrong just different ways to skin a cat?
Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:16 PM
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No idea why anyone would prevent the oil from getting back to the oil pump. Kinda stupid.
Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:48 PM
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Yeah, seems to me the more oil heading back to the pan is a good thing,
as well as keeping things good on the chain.
I'm not saying its wrong, just seems odd.
Where else does the chain get oil from?
Old Oct 11, 2010 | 02:12 PM
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oil could drain back onto chain through the large --i inch hole --- from on top of lifters but the hole is in the plug so why change it,plus it supplies oil under pressure so chain gets oil as soon as there is oil pressure.
Old Oct 11, 2010 | 08:53 PM
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You can ask Bill yourself right here:

http://highperformanceolds.com/phpbb2/index.php
Old Oct 12, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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I'm a little late but here's what Summit has and all the plugs were there with the right orifices. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PRO-66559/
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