Header Bolt snapped off in head - How bad?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 20, 2013 | 10:41 AM
  #1  
rootney's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 221
From: Newtown CT
Header Bolt snapped off in head - How bad?

I recently bought a pair of used "C" heads. Inspection revealed that the center header bolt is broken off in both heads. They look good otherwise.
Is this; A. Minor at the shop. B. Major at the shop C. A real crying in my beer disaster ??

George
Old Aug 20, 2013 | 11:08 AM
  #2  
Oldsmaniac's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 7,304
From: NJ
I vote for answer A or less. If nothing is sticking out to grab or weld a nut to it will need to be drilled and tapped. You could do that yourself as well.
Old Aug 20, 2013 | 11:38 AM
  #3  
rjohnson442's Avatar
Mr. Johnson
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 574
From: Cleveland Ohio
x2
Old Aug 20, 2013 | 12:32 PM
  #4  
halfmoontrail's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 435
From: Melrose FL 32666
It's "C" if it happens on the engine in your daily driver..."A" if the heads are bare and you can take to machine shop, or want to try Kroil/PB Blaster and a QUALITY screw extractor.
Steve

Originally Posted by rootney
I recently bought a pair of used "C" heads. Inspection revealed that the center header bolt is broken off in both heads. They look good otherwise.
Is this; A. Minor at the shop. B. Major at the shop C. A real crying in my beer disaster ??

George
Old Aug 20, 2013 | 12:39 PM
  #5  
oldcutlass's Avatar
Administrator
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 42,475
From: Poteau, Ok
A- minor with the heads off. Just drill and easy out.
Old Aug 20, 2013 | 01:35 PM
  #6  
76 Regency's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,473
From: Connecticut
Originally Posted by rootney
I recently bought a pair of used "C" heads. Inspection revealed that the center header bolt is broken off in both heads. They look good otherwise.
Is this; A. Minor at the shop. B. Major at the shop C. A real crying in my beer disaster ??

George

Hey neighbor!

I agree with the other posts. Shouldn't be a big deal. Did you end up buying a motor or just the heads so far? I think you said you were looking at a '76 455 if I remember right.

John
Old Aug 20, 2013 | 05:10 PM
  #7  
rootney's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 221
From: Newtown CT
Update on the motor plan;
I'm driving this sat. to get a 455 block, TH400 core and rebuilt posi from
Brian Trick.
I am really pleased with all the members that have offered advice.
Thanks everyone.

George
Old Aug 21, 2013 | 05:38 AM
  #8  
76 Regency's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,473
From: Connecticut
Originally Posted by rootney
Update on the motor plan;
I'm driving this sat. to get a 455 block, TH400 core and rebuilt posi from
Brian Trick.
I am really pleased with all the members that have offered advice.
Thanks everyone.

George
That's great George! I'm sure you're very psyched. What year motor and what is it out of? If it's a full sized Olds, let me know if the car and/or any other parts are also available. Thanks and good luck!

john
Old Aug 21, 2013 | 01:26 PM
  #9  
Ozzie's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 1,614
From: S.E. Louisiana, so far still in U.S.A.
Red face Not too bad

Originally Posted by rootney
I recently bought a pair of used "C" heads. Inspection revealed that the center header bolt is broken off in both heads. They look good otherwise.
Is this; A. Minor at the shop. B. Major at the shop C. A real crying in my beer disaster ??

George
It should be an "A" in the hands of a talented person. If done properly the original threads can be saved. If assembly had been done using an anti-seize compound it would almost never happen. Most manufacturers don't have such concerns.
Old Aug 21, 2013 | 03:26 PM
  #10  
Octania's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 7,286
Ask at the machine shop
if they quote $10 a bolt, have them do it
the hassle and time alone are worth that
It's very easy to drill way off center and then it gets ugly. Machine shops have mills and similar machinery to locate the drill properly.

Like any frozen fastener, heat and proper lube are the keys

The only 2 lubes worthy of this task, in my considerable experience with such things from rusty MI cars, are:

1) half ATF half Acetone [voodoo juice], and

2) Candle Wax

Wax is the best, but does make flammable fumes, so work safely.

Heat is by far the most crucial element, along with time.

Too small a torch will never do the job, the heat will just slowly heat everything. You want the surrounding head red hot and the fastener much cooler first.

Be sure to use anti-seize when you assemble.
Old Aug 21, 2013 | 04:24 PM
  #11  
rootney's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 221
From: Newtown CT
Thanks everyone.
Sounds like the machine shop can handle it ok.
No need to get wound up.
George
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
odddoylerules
Small Blocks
34
Apr 21, 2014 07:54 AM
cfair
General Discussion
2
Apr 4, 2014 07:27 AM
airmale
Small Blocks
10
Nov 13, 2013 11:15 AM
RAMBOW
The Clubhouse
3
Aug 13, 2012 05:29 PM
brewcity
Small Blocks
1
Apr 5, 2011 09:36 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:48 PM.